[Puppet Users] Puppet Scalability - any good references

2012-05-22 Thread matan
Hi, Could anyone point out a good existing discussion of Puppet scalability? I'm relating to the Puppet master and ecosystem parts that are not the actual agents sitting on the managed servers. In particular anything that would shed insight upon: 1. Does a Puppet master gracefully degrade w

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-18 Thread Alex Harvey
On 15 May 2012 22:10, Steve Traylen wrote: > > We are currently along way from that with a single master and around 200 > nodes > while we learn puppet and migrate away from quattor. > The 300k figures are a couple of years away, we will have a respectable > figure > sometime this year we

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-16 Thread Nigel Kersten
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Erik Dalén wrote: > On 14 May 2012 18:35, Nigel Kersten wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Alex Harvey > wrote: > >> > >> Hi list, > >> > >> I am looking at configuration management tool options. > >> > >> I have a large fleet (> 3,000 hosts) an

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-16 Thread Bill Proud
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:20:23 PM UTC+2, Alex Harvey wrote: > > Thanks kindly to all for the thoughtful responses. I'll be looking > closely at the idea of using load balanced Puppet servers. > > I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on the other problem I'm told I'll > probably encounter, n

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Harvey
Thanks kindly to all for the thoughtful responses. I'll be looking closely at the idea of using load balanced Puppet servers. I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on the other problem I'm told I'll probably encounter, namely the difficulty in compiling Ruby and other packages in AIX, HPUX & earlie

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-15 Thread Erik Dalén
On 14 May 2012 18:35, Nigel Kersten wrote: > > > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Alex Harvey wrote: >> >> Hi list, >> >> I am looking at configuration management tool options. >> >> I have a large fleet (> 3,000 hosts) and highly heterogeneous >> (RHEL3-5, CentOS, 5RH7, Solaris 10 LDOMs/zones,

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-15 Thread Steve Traylen
On Monday, 14 May 2012 18:38:29 UTC+2, Eric Shamow wrote: > > Nigel, > > Don't we have one or two an order of magnitude larger than that? > > > http://indico.cern.ch/getFile.py/access?contribId=29&sessionId=3&resId=3&materialId=slides&confId=160737 > (warning: > large PDF) > > I think they're loo

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-14 Thread Shawn
users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability Hi list, I am looking at configuration management tool options. I have a large fleet (> 3,000 hosts) and highly heterogeneous (RHEL3-5, CentOS, 5RH7, Solaris 10 LDOMs/zones, Solaris 8-9, AIX 5.3 & 6.1 LPARs, HP-UX & Tru64 + Windows).

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-14 Thread Mister IT Guru
Hi Alex, Just a quick point, Glad to see Team Puppet out in force to show you the light! That CF rep, needs a swift kick in the …. well, I don't want to advocate violence here, I think he can do with being added to your junk mail list. 3000 hosts? No problem! You have to serve one session per

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-14 Thread James Turnbull
Hi Alex > I have read that Puppet could have scalability problems to a site as > large as ours. To keep this simple, I'd like feedback on whether that > is likely to be true for us. On the actual scaling question... Puppet (2.6.x+) is easy to scale as it is just HTTP(S) traffic. You can front-e

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-14 Thread Jeff McCune
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Alex Harvey wrote: > > A rep from CFengine has told me that ours would be the largest Puppet > site in the world (I think that's not true). Could someone confirm? > > Here's a recording of a short talk I gave about some performance testing I did last summer. Th

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-14 Thread Eric Shamow
Nigel, Don't we have one or two an order of magnitude larger than that? http://indico.cern.ch/getFile.py/access?contribId=29&sessionId=3&resId=3&materialId=slides&confId=160737 (warning: large PDF) I think they're looking at 300K or so. And I believe we have a few more at that size as well.

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-14 Thread Nigel Kersten
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Alex Harvey wrote: > Hi list, > > I am looking at configuration management tool options. > > I have a large fleet (> 3,000 hosts) and highly heterogeneous > (RHEL3-5, CentOS, 5RH7, Solaris 10 LDOMs/zones, Solaris 8-9, AIX 5.3 & > 6.1 LPARs, HP-UX & Tru64 + Window

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-14 Thread Christopher Johnston
3k? I know of larger but can't comment on who they are, but they are close to 8-10k nodes AFAIK if not more by now. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Alex Harvey wrote: > Hi list, > > I am looking at configuration management tool options. > > I have a large fleet (> 3,000 hosts) and highly hetero

[Puppet Users] Puppet / scalability

2012-05-14 Thread Alex Harvey
Hi list, I am looking at configuration management tool options. I have a large fleet (> 3,000 hosts) and highly heterogeneous (RHEL3-5, CentOS, 5RH7, Solaris 10 LDOMs/zones, Solaris 8-9, AIX 5.3 & 6.1 LPARs, HP-UX & Tru64 + Windows). We care mainly about RHEL and new versions of Solaris & AIX bu

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet Scalability - Centralised Puppet SSL Cert Issues

2010-09-01 Thread John Warburton
Thanks Ohad I have updated the Wiki entry with a warning (where's the tag?) and references to the bugs on certificate chaining I'm not 100% comfortable with a single CA, so would it be possible to do the following: ca_server = puppet-ca.example.com rsync the ssl dir every 5 minutes to puppet-c

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet Scalability - Centralised Puppet SSL Cert Issues

2010-08-31 Thread Ohad Levy
There is an open bug with 0.25.x (and 2.6) which breaks certificate chaining. this works well for the 0.24.x series, and I hope that will work again sometime in the near future with 2.6.x series. I would recommend you at the moment to use one machine as the CA, if you can accept the fact that its

Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet Scalability - Centralised Puppet SSL Cert Issues

2010-08-31 Thread Patrick
On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:47 PM, John Warburton wrote: > Hi All > > I am trying to use the section on Centralised Puppet Infrastructure on the > Scaling Puppet page - > http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Puppet_Scalability > > No matter what I do, I always end up with the client con

[Puppet Users] Puppet Scalability - Centralised Puppet SSL Cert Issues

2010-08-31 Thread John Warburton
Hi All I am trying to use the section on Centralised Puppet Infrastructure on the Scaling Puppet page - http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Puppet_Scalability No matter what I do, I always end up with the client contacting a puppet server and rejecting the configuration with a dreaded