Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread Randy Kelsoe
Ed Wilts wrote: It's also interesting to note that by default, wu-ftpd will log the security violation attempt but sftp won't. You can make as many attempts to hunt around and see what files you are allowed to transfer, and in fact transfer everything, and the sysadmin will never know what you'v

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 02:04:13PM -0600, Randy Kelsoe wrote: > Justin Zygmont wrote: > > >If you have root jailed users by configuring the ftpaccess file, but have > >ssh installed, all they have to do is sftp in and go wherever they want. > >It's a relief to know that at least they can't grab

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread Randy Kelsoe
Justin Zygmont wrote: If you have root jailed users by configuring the ftpaccess file, but have ssh installed, all they have to do is sftp in and go wherever they want. It's a relief to know that at least they can't grab the shadow file too. I just found a quck way to disable this however, i

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread Randy Kelsoe
Pavel Rozenboim wrote: Actually, I just successfully ftpd as root and fetched /etc/shadow with sftp. Well, you cheated. :) Try that again as a non-root user. -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tuesday 26 November 2002 09:33, Pavel Rozenboim wrote: > Actually, I just successfully ftpd as root and fetched /etc/shadow with > sftp. A) thats as root. Root has access to all files. B) if you can sftp in as root, you can also ssh in as root, and do much worse than look at the shadow file.

RE: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread Pavel Rozenboim
Actually, I just successfully ftpd as root and fetched /etc/shadow with sftp. > -Original Message- > From: Justin Zygmont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tue, November 26, 2002 7:26 PM > To: Randy Kelsoe > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Seeing who is logged in t

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread Justin Zygmont
If you have root jailed users by configuring the ftpaccess file, but have ssh installed, all they have to do is sftp in and go wherever they want. It's a relief to know that at least they can't grab the shadow file too. I just found a quck way to disable this however, in the /etc/ssh/sshd_con

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread Randy Kelsoe
Ed Wilts wrote: In many cases, ftp is *more* secure than sftp. With ftp, you have a lot of control over who can do what through the ftpaccess file (in wu-ftpd). With sftp, it's a free-for-all. In very practical terms, the odds of anybody being able to sniff passwords these days is very slim. T

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 01:44:30AM -0600, Randy Kelsoe wrote: > You should not be > using ftp, though. Try sftp. With ftp, your passwords are sent in plain > text. In many cases, ftp is *more* secure than sftp. With ftp, you have a lot of control over who can do what through the ftpaccess file

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread Kevin Waterson
On 26 Nov 2002 02:28:04 -0500 Chris Kloiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not sure how to check who's in with ftp, but if you ssh in you can type: > > # who for ftp use #ftpwho Kind regards Kevin -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread David Durst
Dont forget the good old UNIX commandline of 'who' The above will just give you a list of all the users currently connected and their ttys/whatevers and then you can identify what processes that tty is using by a ps -e |grep the tty/whatever. > Thanks for the tip. I totally forgot how insecure f

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-26 Thread Joshua Melbourne White
Thanks for the tip. I totally forgot how insecure ftp is. On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 02:44, Randy Kelsoe wrote: > Joshua Melbourne White wrote: > > >I am extremely new to Linux and I am finally learning the power you can > >have with Linux. I have SSH and FTP services running and I can log in > >and

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-25 Thread Randy Kelsoe
Joshua Melbourne White wrote: I am extremely new to Linux and I am finally learning the power you can have with Linux. I have SSH and FTP services running and I can log in and whatever remotely which is awesome. However, how can I see who is currently logged into my system? Is there any GUI pr

Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-25 Thread Chris Kloiber
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 02:15, Joshua Melbourne White wrote: > I am extremely new to Linux and I am finally learning the power you can > have with Linux. I have SSH and FTP services running and I can log in > and whatever remotely which is awesome. However, how can I see who is > currently logged i

Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

2002-11-25 Thread Joshua Melbourne White
I am extremely new to Linux and I am finally learning the power you can have with Linux. I have SSH and FTP services running and I can log in and whatever remotely which is awesome. However, how can I see who is currently logged into my system? Is there any GUI program that shows who is currentl