Re: [NF] Woe is ME with My DEAD PC...

2010-02-13 Thread Alan Bourke
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:10 -0800, "Michael Madigan" wrote: > Nick is the real expert on hardware, but, it seems to me a power supply > problem. > I with Michael here - PSU. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to:

RE: [NF] Woe is ME with My DEAD PC...

2010-02-13 Thread Adam Buckland
Pull the power lead out and then try and turn the pc on to discharge any residual capacitance, leave it a few seconds Plug the lead back in and turn it on again. Not always the PSU can be the mobo power distribution. Had to replace a few mobos over the years due to similar problems. Adam. --

RE: [NF] Woe is ME with My DEAD PC...

2010-02-13 Thread Peter Hart
Hi Kurt Tried to reply to message sent to my support email address but message could not be delivered. First of all my experience Electronics from 58 to 83 when I turned my attention to Computers. I am a qualified computer engineer up to Cisco standards and belong to both professional organisatio

RE: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-13 Thread Charlie Coleman
At 06:54 AM 2/12/2010 -0500, Bill Arnold wrote: >CAMBRIDGE MA -- As protestors gathered outside the M.I.T. campus again this >morning ... > >One of the organizers, the chairman of "Idiots can out-talk you anytime" >(ICOTUA), Mr. I. B. Stupid, was asked to explain the reason for the ... >"We have fr

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-13 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: >> Surely there's no shortage of .NET jobs, but is the same true of >> Python? Can Ed or someone else chime in? > > There are tons of .Net jobs, just like 10 years ago there were tons of > VB jobs. And like then, you'll be competing with a bunc

RE: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-13 Thread Bill Arnold
Hi Charlie, > I'm not sure how this pertained to Gigabit-speed Inet from > Google. But it was entertaining. You may have filtered earlier posts to this thread, one of which I found inspiring > The folks described above do sound EXACTLY like most of the "liberal" > college "teachers" that hav

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-13 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/13/10 7:07 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > >>> Surely there's no shortage of .NET jobs, but is the same true of >>> Python? Can Ed or someone else chime in? >> >> There are tons of .Net jobs, just like 10 years ago there were tons of >> VB jobs. And l

RE: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-13 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I've been trying to keep my mouth shut this time around, but this is one of the biggest things that frustrates me about the software business. To me there is no such thing as incompetent programmers. Only incompetent managers because I believe it is the place of the manager to pick people with g

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-13 Thread Leland Jackson
What is ICOTUA? Sent from my iPhone Regards, Lelandj On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Bill Arnold wrote: > Hi Charlie, > >> I'm not sure how this pertained to Gigabit-speed Inet from >> Google. But it was entertaining. > > You may have filtered earlier posts to this thread, one of which I > fo

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-13 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 13, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > I've been trying to keep my mouth shut this time around, but this is one of > the biggest things that frustrates me about the software business. > > To me there is no such thing as incompetent programmers. > > Only incompetent managers bec

RE: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-13 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
An unmanaged professional without guidance is about as good as an unmanaged missle that somebody has pulled the trigger on. Just because a person is a professional does not mean that they do not require guidance in the form of blueprints. Very little of our software, even now is developed with a

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-13 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 13, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > An unmanaged professional without guidance is about as good as an unmanaged > missle that somebody has pulled the trigger on. > > Just because a person is a professional does not mean that they do not > require guidance in the form of bluep

RE: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-13 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Nobody is talking about the language portion. You as a professional are expected to know and be proficient with your tools. But there is no way in hell that you can be the expert about their business process, which means you better be getting damned good guidance from the business side or your pro

[OT] test

2010-02-13 Thread Leland Jackson
Test Sent from my iPhone ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/s

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-13 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 13, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > Nobody is talking about the language portion. > You as a professional are expected to know and be proficient with your > tools. Yes, we are talking about not only the language, but the structure of the program. We are not talking

RE: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-13 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Agreed.. But I'm saying that we need to do better by implementing a blueprint type system where all of our work is properly done at all steps of the process just like what already exists for the building process because if we don't, we will never be able to achieve what we should be able to achiev

Re: [OT] test

2010-02-13 Thread Pete Theisen
Leland Jackson wrote: > Test > > Sent from my iPhone failed :-) -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-fre

Re: [OT] test

2010-02-13 Thread Jean Laeremans
Reply with my nokia On 2/13/10, Leland Jackson wrote: > Test > > Sent from my iPhone > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of th

Re: [OT] test

2010-02-13 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
On 02/13/2010 03:36 PM, Pete Theisen wrote: > Leland Jackson wrote: > >> Test >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > failed :-) > > Nope, it passed with flying colors. Regards, LelandJ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintena

Re: [OT] test

2010-02-13 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Jean, take a look at your connection settings in your nokia, and tell me if you can connect using ldap. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_Directory_Access_Protocol Regards, LelandJ On 02/13/2010 06:02 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote: > Reply with my nokia > > On 2/13/10, Leland Jackson wrote:

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-13 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > Agreed.. > > But I'm saying that we need to do better by implementing a blueprint type > system where all of our work is properly done at all steps of the process > just like what already exists for the building process because if we don

Re: [NF] java error dump can anyone point out what failed?

2010-02-13 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Steve Ellenoff wrote: > The SocketException suggests to me that a network connection got > dropped during some processing, that's about all I can tell from this log. Thanks. > At 04:02 PM 02/12/2010, Stephen Russell wrote: >> >From the Java Blows divisio

RE: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-13 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
And that is why the business side says we are not doing our job. Let me show you an example and I haven't looked at this since 2002 so bear with me. 1. Design = Math (excel spreadsheets) + artwork (apples and jpgs) 2. Engineering = Hardware (autocade) + Electrical (autocad) + Software (C) 3. SQA