Re: [OT] Obama crash continues

2008-11-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Adam Buckland wrote: > They are just observing what you have previously admitted, that you are > a racist. Hi Adam! That "observing", as you put it, is always one-sided. It is never observed that the liberals are also racist. Sometimes liberal racism is called "reverse racism", but it IS racism

RE: [OT] Obama crash continues

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
But blaming people for bad behavior has nothing to do with race. My Nigerian friend thinks Obama is an empty suit too. He's the same race as Obama is. Is he a racist? If so, please explain? * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepr

Re: [OT] Obama crash continues

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
And Adam voting for Obama only because he's Black is racist. Therefore, Adam is a racist. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Pete Th

RE: [OT] Obama crash continues

2008-11-20 Thread Adam Buckland
You assume to presume for whom and why I voted big mistake. I voted for the person I believed to be the best candidate... may not have been Obama or McCain! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 20 November 2008 08:0

RE: [OT] Obama crash continues

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
All the nutjobs voted for Obama. You voted for Obama. LOL * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subje

[OT] Supreme Court to review Obama's Citizenship

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
They only need 4 justices to agree to hear the case. http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81484 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leaf

RE: [OT] Supreme Court to review Obama's Citizenship

2008-11-20 Thread Adam Buckland
And when I saw the headline "Supremes to review Barack's citizenship"... I thought, Wow Diana Ross has some influence! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 20 November 2008 09:06 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [OT] Suprem

RE: [OT] Supreme Court to review Obama's Citizenship

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
"STOP in the name of the Constitution, before you break the law" "Think it over" * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Adam Buckland <[EM

Re: [OT] Supreme Court to review Obama's Citizenship

2008-11-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote: > "STOP in the name of the Constitution, before you break the law" > > "Think it over" Hi Michael! Diana Ross might make an interesting candidate for mayor of Detroit sometime, but I doubt that she would stoop to it. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ _

RE: [OT] Supreme Court to review Obama's Citizenship

2008-11-20 Thread Adam Buckland
Who would even think of living there now let alone being mayor there... poisoned challis, no win.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: 20 November 2008 09:38 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Supreme Court to review Ob

Re: [OT] Supreme Court to review Obama's Citizenship

2008-11-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote: > They only need 4 justices to agree to hear the case. > > http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81484 Hi Michael! The Alan Keyes suit in California may hold the key to it. So far all the judges have wiggled out on the technicality that the plaintiff lacks standin

Re: [OT] Supreme Court to review Obama's Citizenship

2008-11-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Adam Buckland wrote: > Who would even think of living there now let alone being mayor there... > poisoned challis, no win.. Hi Adam! My sister lives there in the home we grew up in. I don't envy her. I don't envy anyone who messes with her. > Michael Madigan wrote: >> "STOP in the name of the C

RE: [OT] Supreme Court to review Obama's Citizenship

2008-11-20 Thread Adam Buckland
Would you honestly move there though given the local economy etc? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: 20 November 2008 10:07 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Supreme Court to review Obama's Citizenship Adam Buckland w

Re: [NF] Bye Bye Pc Magazine

2008-11-20 Thread Helio Wakasugui
O think the device is really useful, but its design is awful. HW On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Vince Teachout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Madigan wrote: > > I'm sure they're going to offer standing-room only next. > > > > Has anyone used the Amazon Kindle yet. I hear it gets good re

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Alan Lukachko
I knew it. Global warming is a hoax. Last year, we had record snow falls in Southern Ontario and below normal temperatures. The summer temperatures were also below normal. Only 12 days where temps were above 30C. Most years we get 30-40 days of plus 30C. We also had the fewest "smog days" in recent

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Helio Wakasugui
I don't know about Global Warming, but the weather is changing drastically here in Brazil. Recently I've been to north/northwest/central Brazil (including Amazon) and locals say the weather pattern has changed so much over the last years they find it very weird. HW On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:35 AM

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 20, 2008, at 5:35 AM, Alan Lukachko wrote: > I knew it. Global warming is a hoax. Last year, we had record snow > falls in > Southern Ontario and below normal temperatures. Just as I always suspected: Southern Ontario is the entire globe, so we can make global conclusions witho

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
It's already been a pattern for 10 years. The warmest year in history was 1933. The warmest year recently was 1998 and it hs been getting cooler every year since. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- O

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Charlie Coleman
At 11:05 AM 11/20/2008 -0200, Helio Wakasugui wrote: >I don't know about Global Warming, but the weather is changing drastically >here in Brazil. Recently I've been to north/northwest/central Brazil >(including Amazon) and locals say the weather pattern has changed so much >over the last years they

[NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Stephen Russell
Lean from the manufacturing area overshadows what agile whats to occupy. Are you more of a Lean minded developer or just give me Agile. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
But these pricks won't admit that global warming is nonsense. Just recently they released a statement that "october was the warmest october ever" because the idiots used September's data. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/19/nasa_giss_cockup_catalog/ Do you hear anyone on TV reminding us th

Re: [OT] Supreme Court to review Obama's Citizenship

2008-11-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Adam Buckland wrote: > Would you honestly move there though given the local economy etc? Hi Adam! The suburbs are about average for the rest of the country. She didn't move there, however, she has always lived there. She is doing way the hell better than I am financially. > Adam Buckland wrote

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Alan Lukachko
No Southern Ontario is not the entire globe. My original comment - "I knew it. Global warming is a hoax." - was more of a dig at Pete Thiesen's original [OT] post. I'm still not convinced either way about global warming. Southern Ontario probably represents less than 1/1,000th of one percent of th

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 20, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Charlie Coleman wrote: > Most reputable scientific studies show man-made causes to climate > change > are essentially negligible. "Most". How selective. And ridiculous. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: Pro

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Ed Leafe wrote: > On Nov 20, 2008, at 5:35 AM, Alan Lukachko wrote: > >> I knew it. Global warming is a hoax. Last year, we had record snow >> falls in Southern Ontario and below normal temperatures. > > Just as I always suspected: Southern Ontario is the entire globe, so > we can make

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 20, 2008, at 10:26 AM, Alan Lukachko wrote: > No Southern Ontario is not the entire globe. My original comment - > "I knew > it. Global warming is a hoax." - was more of a dig at Pete Thiesen's > original [OT] post. I'm still not convinced either way about global > warming. Th

RE: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Eurico Chagas Filho
Those terms I use for womem, and I like them lean. E. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Arch

Re: [OT] USA is not to be blamed here.

2008-11-20 Thread Nicholas Geti
Human nature. Each person is trying to grab what he can before his luck runs out. It is like "musical chairs"; each person hopes he can grab his chair before the other guy and then get out before the decline. Cannot legislate against this because no one knows at what point greed becomes too exc

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Alan Lukachko
Scientific method should take in as large a sample as possible to prove or disprove a theory. It should also take into consideration time. Observations can change with time. Since the earth's weather patterns and therefore temperatures are constantly changing, I see no practical way of proving or d

[OT] Don't let this get out

2008-11-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody! http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html Stakes are high in keeping the cover up going! (16th comment down) "the problem was not where he was born, but if his mother was a citizen or not. According to WND: Geraghty defined the concerns most clearly, sta

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: > No Southern Ontario is not the entire globe. My original comment - "I knew > it. Global warming is a hoax." - was more of a dig at Pete Thiesen's Hi Alan! Of course, it would be a more effective dig if you spelled my name correctly when it is right on your screen. -- Rega

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Alan Lukachko
Sorry. Sorry. The fingers just want to keep following the "I" before "e" rule. And I didn't check close enough before I hit the send button. Al > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Pete Theisen > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:00 P

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: > Sorry. Sorry. The fingers just want to keep following the "I" before "e" > rule. And I didn't check close enough before I hit the send button. >>> it. Global warming is a hoax." - was more of a dig at Pete Thiesen's >> Of course, it would be a more effective dig if you spel

VFPCompression.fll

2008-11-20 Thread Kevin Cully
Hello All, I'm trying to write a class that wraps up the functionality of Craig Boyd's VFPCompression.fll. I'm writing a method for zipping up folders and I'm having trouble to get ZipFolder() to work when I specify another target folder for ZipOpen(). If I create the zip file in the current dir

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Paul McNett
Stephen Russell wrote: > > > Lean from the manufacturing area overshadows what agile whats to > occupy. Are you more of a Lean minded developer or just give me > Agile. I resist highly-defined development processes. Then again, I'm ki

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 20, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Alan Lukachko wrote: > Scientific method should take in as large a sample as possible to > prove or > disprove a theory. It should also take into consideration time. > Observations > can change with time. Since the earth's weather patterns and therefore > temperat

[OT] What will he want for himself now?

2008-11-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody! http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/11/obama-senate.html 46 months, 21 months trying to better himself. It's all about him, isn't it? Maybe a nice CEO slot with a great golden parachute! That is change he can really hope for! -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/

RE: VFPCompression.fll

2008-11-20 Thread Rick Borup
Kevin, I don't see where you're doing anything wrong here. I ran your code and it zips the files in c:\temp into c:\backup\temp.zip as expected. The only thing that might be unexpected is that the files carry a path of 'temp' within the zip file. Are you using the latest version of Craig's FLL? -

Re: VFPCompression.fll

2008-11-20 Thread Kevin Cully
Hello Rick, I believe that I'm running the latest. My file is from 3/27/2008 and is 81,920 bytes. I'm running on Winblows XP. Once ZipOpen() is called, I am getting a zip file created in the correct directory, the ZipFolder() is called and immediately returns, and then ZipClose() is called and

Re: VFPCompression.fll

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Kevin Cully wrote: > Hello Rick, > > I believe that I'm running the latest. My file is from 3/27/2008 and is > 81,920 bytes. I'm running on Winblows XP. > > Once ZipOpen() is called, I am getting a zip file created in the correct > directory, the ZipFolder() is called and immediately returns, an

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Paul McNett wrote: > I resist highly-defined development processes. Then again, I'm kind of a cowboy. Each > day I look at the weather and get to work. No meetings, no explaining what and why > I'm doing what I'm doing, no peer review of my code. But fast, somewhat test-driven > development and de

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Alan Lukachko
Ed, This is a correction from an earlier post to get the facts straight and a comment of your suggestion to read more about the global warming issue. "Southern Ontario probably represents less than 1/1,000th of one percent of the globe (19529 sq km versus 510,065,600 sq km). " Actually 19529 sq

RE: [OT] Obama crash continues

2008-11-20 Thread Bob Calco
Maybe we should all unite, drop our arrogant 'twit' filters, and agree to sit down "without preconditions" to revive this august forum? ;) - Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Ed Leafe > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:44 PM >

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: > So this is what makes me more of a cynic. Things go up and things go down. > So no matter how much you read and observe, there is no absolute in any > theory. Be it global warming or stock market richness. > > Peace, Hi Alan! You misunderstood the liberal rule. In all fie

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 20, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Alan Lukachko wrote: > So this is what makes me more of a cynic. Things go up and things go > down. > So no matter how much you read and observe, there is no absolute in > any > theory. Be it global warming or stock market richness. If you require absolut

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Alan Lukachko
Being a Canadian, my cultural environment tends to make me a centralist, risk adverse, maybe cynical, dull and boring. Perhaps I'm a liberal to a lesser degree, but I generally don't follow the rules. I do make mistakes and I'll admit to that. Life goes on. This approach has served me well for over

RE: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
The have to be agile to get away from you. * --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Eurico Chagas Filho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Eurico Chagas Filho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer? > To: "'ProFox Email List'"

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Alan Lukachko
Ed, Perhaps you misunderstood, I'm not looking for absolutes. I just stated "that there is no absolute in any theory". I'm not disappointed in life. Yes I've had ups and downs, but I've been blessed with a life better than most. I've been in business for myself for over 25 years and it has been

RE: [OT] Obama crash continues

2008-11-20 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Bob, > Maybe we should all unite, drop our arrogant 'twit' filters, > and agree to sit down "without preconditions" to revive > this august forum? The forum has been spoiled for me with an increase in racist chatter, probably triggered by the Obama candidacy. There are some 'bygones' that aren'

Re: VFPCompression.fll

2008-11-20 Thread Kevin Cully
I guess I could. I was thinking that I could have the zip created in the current directory and then move the zip file, but that'll probably break things in Vista. -Kevin CULLY Technologies, LLC MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > Can you set/change the path explicitly prior to ZipFol

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > I hear ya. I miss the days when I just ran MBSS and that was the only > source of income...then again, it hardly paid anything since business > was not very lucrative around Pine Grove, PA. Still, I really miss > those Wednesday afternoon therapy ses

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
Alan, No need to explain yourself. You are correct. There is no global warming and there never has been. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Alan Lukachko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

RE: [OT] Obama crash continues

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
Yet after all you've said about Pete, he's never said the same about you. Makes him a bigger person, doesn't it? * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Kristyne McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:06 PM, Alan Lukachko wrote: > Perhaps you misunderstood, I'm not looking for absolutes. I just > stated > "that there is no absolute in any theory". Well, since we've been talking about science, isn't that a fundamental assumption? Scientific understand

RE: [OT] Obama crash continues

2008-11-20 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, > Makes him a bigger person, doesn't it? No. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford _

Re: VFPCompression.fll

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Kevin Cully wrote: > I guess I could. > > I was thinking that I could have the zip created in the current > directory and then move the zip file, but that'll probably break things > in Vista. My idea was simply a WAG for a workaround. ___ Post Mess

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Paul McNett wrote: > ...hoping I *never* have to work in a corporate environment again. At least not a > stodgy, meeting-heavy, justify-every-minute-you-spend, politically charged one. Amen to that, brother. I gotta say that I've enjoyed Sylvan as it wasn't that, but most others I worked for, it

RE: [OT] Obama crash continues

2008-11-20 Thread Geoff Flight
That is a great wish, but I've seen from my own part of the world that racism exists everywhere and in every strata of society. It is in fact part of the human condition and the more advanced ones move beyond it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

RE: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Geoff Flight
I haven't worked in a corporate cubicle/office environment for over 20 years. I'm what Scott Adams (Dilbert) describes as a 'free-range employee' -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul McNett Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 6:52 AM To: profox@

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Geoff Flight
The only problem with that is that the planet is cooling. I'm no climatologist but when every single prediction of the climate-change model is wrong; when temperatures are dropping, not rising and when the UN's primary source of climate-change data admits to having seriously flawed (or fraudulent)

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
It seems there was an industry built around Y2K and now there's an industry around Global Warming. I think it's time to create an industry on Faerie Dust. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Thu, 11/

Re: VFPCompression.fll

2008-11-20 Thread Kevin Cully
Okay. I've got the solution and it was a bit of a PEBKAC, of course. In my example I gave you, I had the full path that I typed in to simplify the test. In my testing, I had a relative path. Once I took the tcFolderName = FULLPATH(tcFolderName) inside of the method, it works like a charm. Thank

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
Being self-employed for most of the last 14 years, the lifestyle is worth many thousands of dollars. The last of in-fighting, politics, being forced to do things that you know won't work, and the lack of job security are real drawbacks. --- On Thu, 11/20/08, MB Software Solutions General Ac

RE: [OT] Obama crash continues in the Asian Markets

2008-11-20 Thread Bob Calco
Mike & Kristyne (and whoever else may be eavesdropping, ... Ed): > > No place where I would want to work, that's for sure. I'm tired of > people labeling dissension as venom. It's ridiculous. > > Why didn't Republicans riot after Obama won, yet the homosexuals in > California rioted because the

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Geoff Flight wrote: > I remember Y2K... this feels familiar. Yeah - I remember Y2K too. What happened was that a problem was identified, and steps were taken to fix it before it caused horrible problems. Sounds like a good way to deal with things. -- Ed

Re: [OT] Obama crash continues in the Asian Markets

2008-11-20 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Geoff Flight wrote: > DO you think Bush is at all to blame for this crash? > > Do you know what a Troll is? Well he does not even qualify for Troll, he is a tad under that. So PLEASE, stop trying to have a civilized conversation with him. Or at least send the posts to his personal address so th

Re: [OT] Obama crash continues in the Asian Markets

2008-11-20 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: > Geoff, > > >> What are you? Some kind of terminal idiot? When are you going >> to blame Bush? >> Bet you cant! >> > > I don't know why he writes this kind of stuff on the internet. Anyone that > does a search on "michael madigan vfp" finds the venom. It would be

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Geoff Flight wrote: > I haven't worked in a corporate cubicle/office environment for over 20 > years. I'm what Scott Adams (Dilbert) describes as a 'free-range employee' But the pay for being a "free-range employee" is usually lots less than the corporate world, imo. ymmv. _

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Geoff Flight
We Ed... were you there at the time coz it sure doesn't sound like it. We had the prophets of doom predicting a world-wide collapse of society. We had thousands of people predicting chaos and disaster. People filled up their tubs with water expecting the water companies to fail. Spam (canned meat)

RE: [OT] Obama crash continues in the Asian Markets

2008-11-20 Thread Geoff Flight
LOL thanks. Yes, I realized after the first two replies that he was a troll. I'm just such a sucker for attacking the perennially stupid! And perhaps too as an Australian living in a country that has had its economy so assaulted by events we neither caused nor can avoid, I despise those trying to s

RE: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Geoff Flight
Not necessarily at all. IN the last couple of years Ive only really worked 50-75% of fulltime due to a number of reasons but my income is about average for my job. With lots of work and a good commitment by me to effort I can earn twice the normal salary plus I get to wear jeans and tshirt to the o

RE: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Michael, > But the pay for being a "free-range employee" is usually lots > less than the corporate world, imo. ymmv. Not necessarily. But honestly anyone that views themselves as an employee is not really free-range... Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadv

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 20, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Geoff Flight wrote: > We Ed... were you there at the time coz it sure doesn't sound like > it. We > had the prophets of doom predicting a world-wide collapse of > society. We had > thousands of people predicting chaos and disaster. People filled up > their > tubs

RE: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Geoff Flight
Does anyone else remember that Dilbert cartoon about the free range employee? It struck a chord with me. I just bought the complete Dilbert collection and laughing myself stupid with it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sen

RE: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Geoff Flight
Er Ed... I was not only around at Y2K I wrote some of the original systems that needed fixing! I did some y2k conversion work myself. I was FULLY aware of what the problem actually WAS. What I was referring to (obviously without clarity) was how the rest of the community reacted. There was some gen

RE: VFPCompression.fll

2008-11-20 Thread Rick Borup
Glad you got it working. We've all been victim to PEBKAC at one time or another. -Rick > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Cully > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: VFPCompression.

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Geoff Flight wrote: > The only problem with that is that the planet is cooling. I'm no > climatologist but when every single prediction of the climate-change model > is wrong; when temperatures are dropping, not rising Absolutely right mate! We should be having around 22º C and here I am shivering

Re: VFPCompression.fll

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
>> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Cully >> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:59 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: VFPCompression.fll >> >> Okay. I've got the solution and it was a bit of a PEBKAC, of course. >> In m

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: > Michael, > >> But the pay for being a "free-range employee" is usually lots >> less than the corporate world, imo. ymmv. > > Not necessarily. But honestly anyone that views themselves as an employee is > not really free-range... I would have hoped that with the advance

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Geoff Flight wrote: > Not necessarily at all. IN the last couple of years Ive only really worked > 50-75% of fulltime due to a number of reasons but my income is about average > for my job. With lots of work and a good commitment by me to effort I can > earn twice the normal salary plus I get to we

Re: [OT] A**hole Gore and his junk "science" whore

2008-11-20 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Alan Lukachko wrote: > Ed, > > This is a correction from an earlier post to get the facts straight and a > comment of your suggestion to read more about the global warming issue. > > "Southern Ontario probably represents less than 1/1,000th of one percent of > the globe (19529 sq km versus 510,065,

Re: [OT] Obama crash continues in the Asian Markets

2008-11-20 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Geoff Flight wrote: > LOL thanks. Yes, I realized after the first two replies that he was a troll. > I'm just such a sucker for attacking the perennially stupid! And perhaps too > as an Australian living in a country that has had its economy so assaulted > by events we neither caused nor can avoid,

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
Many businesses are paranoid that you're actually not working at home. to me a webcam and some keyboard stroke counter would fix that paranoia. I would think customer service reps, commissioned sales employees, tech support, they could all work from home.

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:23 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > I would have hoped that with the advances in remoting technologies > (like > Logmein) many companies would adopt more work-from-home positions, > but I > don't think it's as high an adoption rate as I would have expe

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Alan Bourke
Either. Anything but 'waterfall'. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:09:27 -0800 (PST), "Michael Madigan" > I would think customer service reps, commissioned sales employees, tech > support, they could all work from home. Absoultely. Business is just going to have to wise up in the coming years. A combination of tech like monitoring softwar

RE: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Michael, > But were you in a major metro area or close by? That's part of my > problem...I lived in Bumblef*ck, PA in the middle of nowhere. Exactly my problem. That's why I focus on internet marketing now and program mostly for myself to solve my internet marketing problems. If I move Steve is

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:23:52 -0500 (EST), "MB Software Solutions General Account" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I lived in Bumblef*ck, PA in the middle of nowhere. Drove through there once, on my way to Asshat. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Paul McNett
Michael Madigan wrote: > Many businesses are paranoid that you're actually not working at home. to me > a webcam and some keyboard stroke counter would fix that paranoia. I would never accept those terms (webcam and keystroke logger). Paul ___ Post

RE: [OT] Obama crash continues in the Asian Markets

2008-11-20 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Ricardo, > Then get ready for a LOT of despising if you are to stay in OT or > just filter a couple of them so as to keep the bullshit at manageable > levels. That's what I've been doing for several weeks now. I feel much better without certain persons. I might start filtering on keywords to

RE: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Tom Slayton
Agreed! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul McNett Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:20 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer? Stephen Russell wrote: >

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Vince Teachout
Michael Madigan wrote: > Many businesses are paranoid that you're actually not working at home. to me > a webcam and some keyboard stroke counter would fix that paranoia. > > Hmmm One time home made video of me working: 25 minutes. One time looping the video into the webcam feed: 10 m

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Vince Teachout
Paul McNett wrote: > Michael Madigan wrote: > >> Many businesses are paranoid that you're actually not working at home. to >> me a webcam and some keyboard stroke counter would fix that paranoia. >> > > I would never accept those terms (webcam and keystroke logger). You're welcome to tie

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Ed Leafe wrote: > On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:23 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account > wrote: > >> I would have hoped that with the advances in remoting technologies >> (like >> Logmein) many companies would adopt more work-from-home positions, >> but I >> don't think it's as high an adoptio

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Alan Bourke wrote: > they don't really care as long as it gets done ! And imo, that's how it SHOULD be! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://le

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Alan Bourke wrote: > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:23:52 -0500 (EST), "MB Software Solutions General > Account" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> I lived in Bumblef*ck, PA in the middle of nowhere. > > Drove through there once, on my way to Asshat. LOL! The Saturday Night Live skit where the actors were

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
> Michael Madigan wrote: >> Many businesses are paranoid that you're actually not working at home. to >> me a webcam and some keyboard stroke counter would fix that paranoia. That's exactly it--most are paranoid that you're not working like you would be in the office. I had worked at this place

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Vince Teachout
> Yet when I asked my boss if I could tele-commute, one of the first > things out of his mouth was "well, how do we know if you'd be working?" > I was floored. I think it was at that point that I made my mind up to > leave and find a different employer. > I have a yellowed Dilbert strip han

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Paul McNett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I resist highly-defined development processes. If the definition means that it's fixed and static and therefore brittle and restrictive, I agree. If it's a collection of best practices, the kind of stuff we're already doin

Re: [NF] Lean or Agile which do you prefer?

2008-11-20 Thread Michael Madigan
But it never is. Everyone thinks they're getting cheated. This is particularly true if you're a system administrator. You keep the computers running, you run the updates, you keep the computers patched, you repair the hard disks of computers that are showing bad blocks in the event log, you m

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