Re: Fun with LabelRIGHT...

2011-12-20 Thread Michael Madigan
All's well that ends well.   - Original Message - From: Kurt Wendt To: profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:40 PM Subject: RE: Fun with LabelRIGHT... Yeah - I was there at that website - before I posted my message below. But, as I mentioned before - I don't know how

Re: Alternatives to storing a user's password in your database

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/21/2011 12:41 AM, Christof Wollenhaupt wrote: > If you use CRC functions you should salt the value. That is adding a few > application specific characters before or after the password, then passing > the result to SYS(2007) - or whatever else. Adding more sophisticated > functions to calculat

Re: Alternatives to storing a user's password in your database

2011-12-20 Thread Christof Wollenhaupt
If you use CRC functions you should salt the value. That is adding a few application specific characters before or after the password, then passing the result to SYS(2007) - or whatever else. Adding more sophisticated functions to calculate the hash value would be possible but not add security valu

Re: Alternatives to storing a user's password in your database

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 5:35 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Dec 20, 2011, at 4:25 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > >> That's what I'm attempting to dobut with a checksum. So I should >> use the HASH() function instead and store the 64 byte character string >> instead of the 10 digit # generated from th

Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread Ken Dibble
>I hear what you're saying about support. Here's what I do with my >customers to help "make it right:" I charge them for 24 hours of >support at roughly 1/2 my regular rate. At the end of the year, >whatever balance hours have not been used on support are then credited >to them toward NEW devel

Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread Ken Dibble
> > And when companies try to tell me that I have to pay for "support" on an > > ongoing basis that I may never use--or may use only once in three > > years--I > > get really angry. And if, when I drop support because I never use it, > > then > > need to use it once, they tell me not only do I hav

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Re: VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function (SOLVED)

2011-12-20 Thread Allen
They should have the same methods. 71 was rebuild due to problems many had with the 8 runtimes Al -Original Message- > > Well there's the problem---I'm using vfpencryption.fll, not > vfpencryption71.fll. Ugh. I'll go back to his site and find that one. Bingo. Case closed. I was usi

RE: Fun with LabelRIGHT...

2011-12-20 Thread Kurt Wendt
Yeah - I was there at that website - before I posted my message below. But, as I mentioned before - I don't know how they got the SW here - they just work with it. And, they distribute it to all their clients. So - we still have a BUNCH of them using it - and I know the clients are not willing

Re: Alternatives to storing a user's password in your database

2011-12-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 20, 2011, at 4:25 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > That's what I'm attempting to dobut with a checksum. So I should > use the HASH() function instead and store the 64 byte character string > instead of the 10 digit # generated from the checksum? Depends on what you're

RE: Alternatives to storing a user's password in your database

2011-12-20 Thread Tracy Pearson
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote on 2011-12-20: > As you might have seen from a previous thread, I was looking at using > the checksum via SYS(2007) or Craig Boyd's CRC() function (from his > vfpencryption71.fll) to store the person's password. I've never liked > saving the actual password i

Re: Alternatives to storing a user's password in your database

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 5:16 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > You should never store passwords. Instead, you should store a hash of > the password. When the user logs in, you hash the supplied password and > compare it to the stored hash. If they match, the password was valid. That's what I'm attempting to do

Re: Alternatives to storing a user's password in your database

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 5:17 PM, John Weller wrote: > I have a routine which pads the password to a fixed length of, say, 20 > characters with a standard string of punctuation. I then take the ASCII > value of the first character and use it as a seed for a RAND() function. I > take the resulting fraction a

Re: Alternatives to storing a user's password in your database

2011-12-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 20, 2011, at 4:02 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > As you might have seen from a previous thread, I was looking at using > the checksum via SYS(2007) or Craig Boyd's CRC() function (from his > vfpencryption71.fll) to store the person's password. I've never liked > saving the actu

RE: Alternatives to storing a user's password in your database

2011-12-20 Thread John Weller
I have a routine which pads the password to a fixed length of, say, 20 characters with a standard string of punctuation. I then take the ASCII value of the first character and use it as a seed for a RAND() function. I take the resulting fraction and multiply it by the ASCII value of the second ch

Re: Fun with LabelRIGHT...

2011-12-20 Thread Michael Madigan
Why not just buy the latest copy?  http://www.barcodehq.com/lrwindows.html  - Original Message - From: Kurt Wendt To: profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:03 PM Subject: Fun with LabelRIGHT... ...NOT! Just curious to know if anyone here ever worked with LabelRight

Fun with LabelRIGHT...

2011-12-20 Thread Kurt Wendt
...NOT! Just curious to know if anyone here ever worked with LabelRight. Although, to be more specific - I actually have to work with the DOS version 2.97 - which makes matters worse. And, to top it all of - a buddy of mine whose worked here for YEARS claims nobody knows where the SW came from (a

Alternatives to storing a user's password in your database

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
As you might have seen from a previous thread, I was looking at using the checksum via SYS(2007) or Craig Boyd's CRC() function (from his vfpencryption71.fll) to store the person's password. I've never liked saving the actual password in the database. Is anyone else here doing something simila

Re: VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function (SOLVED)

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 4:53 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: >> It worked for me in the VFP Command Window, again, using the >> vfpencryption71.fll. > > > Well there's the problem---I'm using vfpencryption.fll, not > vfpencryption71.fll. Ugh. I'll go back to his site and find that one. Bingo. Case

Re: [OT] Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:51 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > On 12/20/2011 2:34 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: >> If you had dies it would have been free Dr. fees.  You still have to >> pay for the operating room and supporting personnel as well as >> supplies. >> >> Bad Steve! > > > Wow...tha

Re: VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 3:27 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: > MB Software Solutions,LLC wrote on 2011-12-20: >> On 12/20/2011 12:18 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: >> On 12/20/2011 9:47 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote: I'm using the vfpencryption71.dll. It uses the same runtimes VFP 9 does. > The >>

Re: foreward from Les Pinter's upcoming book

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 2:43 PM, Dan Covill wrote: > On 12/20/11 09:17, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: >> http://www.pinter.com/Foreword.aspx >> >> It's his foreward and mentions his very interesting past, including of >> course FoxPro. I really enjoyed reading it. You might too. > > Fascinating. He do

[OT] Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 2:34 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > If you had dies it would have been free Dr. fees. You still have to > pay for the operating room and supporting personnel as well as > supplies. > > Bad Steve! Wow...that's a good point. I knew there were hospital bills, but are you sure the Dr.

[OT] This is why we need to SHRINK government

2011-12-20 Thread Michael Madigan
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RE: VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function

2011-12-20 Thread Tracy Pearson
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote on 2011-12-20: > On 12/20/2011 12:18 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > On 12/20/2011 9:47 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote: >>> I'm using the vfpencryption71.dll. It uses the same runtimes VFP 9 does. The >>> vfpencryption.dll uses newer C++ runtimes. Might you be

Re: foreward from Les Pinter's upcoming book

2011-12-20 Thread Dan Covill
On 12/20/11 09:17, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > http://www.pinter.com/Foreword.aspx > > It's his foreward and mentions his very interesting past, including of > course FoxPro. I really enjoyed reading it. You might too. Fascinating. He do go on a bit, don't he? Dan

Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:21 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > On 12/20/2011 10:44 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: >> It's like the (possibly apocryphal) story about Picasso ... somebody >> commissioned him to do a sketch so he dashed off something and handed it >> to them, and said 'that will be a

RE: foreward from Les Pinter's upcoming book

2011-12-20 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
> > http://www.pinter.com/Foreword.aspx > > It's his foreward and mentions his very interesting past, including of > course FoxPro. I really enjoyed reading it. You might too. > Yes, good stuff there! Not to start up a holy war (again), but I just love this quote: "FoxPro made SQL look ba

Re: [OT] Hitchens at last finds truth

2011-12-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > Reminds me of how you treat Dabo. You share your experience with your > friends when you can, let others know how great it is when opportunity > allows. On top of that you are in control of your feelings as well as > know when is the proper

Re: VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 12:18 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > On 12/20/2011 9:47 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote: >> I'm using the vfpencryption71.dll. It uses the same runtimes VFP 9 does. The >> vfpencryption.dll uses newer C++ runtimes. Might you be missing the >> msvcr8*.dll file(s)? > > > Hi Tracy, > >

Re: VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 12:36 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: > Mike, > > To my knowledge, you only need the C++ runtime files in the path your > executable sees. I'm just trying this from the Command Window. Is that the problem--does it only work in an EXE I wonder? Alright...I can test that next. Thanks.

RE: VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function

2011-12-20 Thread Tracy Pearson
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote on 2011-12-20: > On 12/20/2011 9:47 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote: > I'm using the vfpencryption71.dll. It uses the same runtimes VFP 9 does. The > vfpencryption.dll uses newer C++ runtimes. Might you be missing the > msvcr8*.dll file(s)? > > > Hi Tracy, > > I

Parameter passing & Choking M$ found new hardware Msg

2011-12-20 Thread william tormey
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[JOB] Foxpro "resource" needed in Pleasanton, California

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
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Re: foreward from Les Pinter's upcoming book

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 12:17 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > http://www.pinter.com/Foreword.aspx > > It's his foreward and mentions his very interesting past, including of > course FoxPro. I really enjoyed reading it. You might too. > ...although I can't seem to bring up his website: http://jus

Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 10:44 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > It's like the (possibly apocryphal) story about Picasso ... somebody > commissioned him to do a sketch so he dashed off something and handed it > to them, and said 'that will be a thousand, please'. The buyer says 'A > thousand! but it only took you 30 s

Re: VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 9:47 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote: > I'm using the vfpencryption71.dll. It uses the same runtimes VFP 9 does. The > vfpencryption.dll uses newer C++ runtimes. Might you be missing the > msvcr8*.dll file(s)? Hi Tracy, I just unzipped the files from his zip to a separate dev folder and t

foreward from Les Pinter's upcoming book

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://www.pinter.com/Foreword.aspx It's his foreward and mentions his very interesting past, including of course FoxPro. I really enjoyed reading it. You might too. -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabma

Re: VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 9:36 AM, Allen wrote: > Do you get an error with set library too, if so its the c++ runtimes. I use > the 71 version myself as the 71 runtimes are used by VFP > Al No, I don't get an error doing that. And other functions work for me, so I know I can access it ok. -- Mike Babcoc

RE: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread John Weller
The moral of the story is - either don't let the client see what you are doing or make it look more difficult than it is :-) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > > Down here the story goes as follow, the guy came in and using a screwdriver fixed > whatever in 3 minutes. The owner asked for a

Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread Eurico Chagas Filho
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Re: [OT] Hitchens at last finds truth

2011-12-20 Thread Stephen Russell
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > >> I thought I was writing about Freedom from Religion Foundation and >> nobody else.  Sorry if you were offended.  You allow people to be >> themselves which is great. > >        OK, for those

Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread Alan Bourke
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011, at 09:22 AM, MB Software Solutions,LLC wrote: > > > For some reason, this reminded me of Gene Wirchenko's story about fixing > a printer issue that took him hardly 5 minutes. The client didn't want > to pay for Gene's expertise to handle the solution since it was fixed s

Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread Pete Theisen
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > On 12/20/2011 9:23 AM, Lou Syracuse wrote: >> Well there is a blast from the past. Haven't heard that name in a while... > > > He did pop back in here within the past few years...although he's been > AWOL again. :-) Hi Michael, AWOL? If he were to post ev

RE: VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function

2011-12-20 Thread Tracy Pearson
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote on 2011-12-20: > VFP9SP2 > > Background: I'm trying to store the checksum value instead of storing > the actual password. I figured SYS(2007) would give me what I need but > then saw Craig Boyd's CRC() function in his vfpencryption.fll. > > I've downloa

Re: VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function

2011-12-20 Thread Allen
Do you get an error with set library too, if so its the c++ runtimes. I use the 71 version myself as the 71 runtimes are used by VFP Al -Original Message- VFP9SP2 I've downloaded the latest version from Craig's site (120KB, 4/5/2006, 7:04pm). After I SET LIBRARY TO vfpencryption.fll an

Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 9:23 AM, Lou Syracuse wrote: > Well there is a blast from the past. Haven't heard that name in a while... He did pop back in here within the past few years...although he's been AWOL again. :-) -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect

VFPEncryption.FLL's CRC function

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
VFP9SP2 Background: I'm trying to store the checksum value instead of storing the actual password. I figured SYS(2007) would give me what I need but then saw Craig Boyd's CRC() function in his vfpencryption.fll. I've downloaded the latest version from Craig's site (120KB, 4/5/2006, 7:04pm).

RE: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread Lou Syracuse
Well there is a blast from the past. Haven't heard that name in a while... -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:22 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re:

Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2011 3:37 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > Though you don't mind paying for individual support incidents as long as > you're not hit for the back charges, I assume from that ? > > Bugs are one thing, but if you have no ongoing support contract, and > someone from the software vendor has to spend a

Re: [NF]: The software-as-a-service (SaaS) model ?

2011-12-20 Thread Alan Bourke
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011, at 08:35 PM, Ken Dibble wrote: > > And when companies try to tell me that I have to pay for "support" on an > ongoing basis that I may never use--or may use only once in three > years--I > get really angry. And if, when I drop support because I never use it, > then > n