[pfx] Re: [OT] Null MX or not?

2024-08-01 Thread Laura Smith via Postfix-users
> My doubt is that since the outgoing email server identifies itself as > host1.example.com in the EHLO, is there a requirement or even an > expectation that postmas...@example.com will be able to receive email. I think the reality is that we are in 2024, and the chances of a human reading p

[pfx] Re: [ext] Re: always_bcc colliding with access(5) REDIRECT action

2024-08-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt via Postfix-users
* Wietse Venema via Postfix-users : > Is this an unexpanded virtual alias? Yes > The 'redirect' recipient is not subject > to canonical mapping, masquerading, or virtual alias mapping. That explains it. > There were two recipients: the BCC recipient that was found in > recipient_bcc_maps, and

[pfx] Re: always_bcc colliding with access(5) REDIRECT action

2024-08-01 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 01:10:46PM -0400, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote: > > > Now I tried to redirect mails from my private address sent to anybody > > > at charite.de to be redirected to someone else in the organisation, > > > like this: > > > > > > rxlf.hildebra...@gmail.com REDIRECT t

[pfx] Re: [OT] Null MX or not?

2024-08-01 Thread John Fawcett via Postfix-users
On 01/08/2024 09:32, Laura Smith via Postfix-users wrote: My doubt is that since the outgoing email server identifies itself as host1.example.com in the EHLO, is there a requirement or even an expectation that postmas...@example.com will be able to receive email. I think the reality is tha

[pfx] Re: [OT] Null MX or not?

2024-08-01 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 07:32:52AM +, Laura Smith via Postfix-users wrote: > I think the reality is that we are in 2024, and the chances of a human > reading postmaster@ are about the same as a human reading abuse@ > i.e. nil. This may be true for the too-big-to-fail mail providers, but

[pfx] Re: [ext] Re: always_bcc colliding with access(5) REDIRECT action

2024-08-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt via Postfix-users
* Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users : > Making REDIRECT match naïve user expectations, ey! :) -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netz | Netzwerk-Administration Invalidenstraße 120/121 | D-10115 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@ch

[pfx] Re: always_bcc colliding with access(5) REDIRECT action

2024-08-01 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 01:10:46PM -0400, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users > wrote: > > > > > Now I tried to redirect mails from my private address sent to anybody > > > > at charite.de to be redirected to someone else in the organisation, > > > > like this: >

[pfx] Re: [OT] Null MX or not?

2024-08-01 Thread Bill Cole via Postfix-users
On 2024-08-01 at 03:32:52 UTC-0400 (Thu, 01 Aug 2024 07:32:52 +) Laura Smith via Postfix-users is rumored to have said: My doubt is that since the outgoing email server identifies itself as host1.example.com in the EHLO, is there a requirement or even an expectation that postmas...@example.

[pfx] Re: [OT] Null MX or not?

2024-08-01 Thread Larry Stone via Postfix-users
I concur. My domain is a personal one for the use of me and my family. As such, there should not be an issue with other users sending spam or the like which would trigger mail to postmaster or abuse so the mail to those addresses is miniscule. And internally, they’re just forwarding addresses to

[pfx] Re: Use different transport map for submission

2024-08-01 Thread Dāvis Mosāns via Postfix-users
ceturtd., 2024. g. 1. aug., plkst. 09:10 — lietotājs Wietse Venema via Postfix-users () rakstīja: > > Davis Mosans via Postfix-users: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to setup Postfix in a way that will forward/relay all mail > > on SMTP port 25 but send out (don't forward) email when receiving on > > su

[pfx] Re: Use different transport map for submission

2024-08-01 Thread Dāvis Mosāns via Postfix-users
ceturtd., 2024. g. 1. aug., plkst. 14:10 — lietotājs Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users () rakstīja: > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 12:54:16AM +0300, Dāvis Mosāns via Postfix-users > wrote: > > > and in master.cf I have: > > submissions inet n - n - - smtpd > >-o

[pfx] Re: [OT] Null MX or not?

2024-08-01 Thread Victoriano Giralt via Postfix-users
El jue, 01-08-2024 a las 07:32 +, Laura Smith via Postfix-users escribió: > > > > > My doubt is that since the outgoing email server identifies itself as > > host1.example.com in the EHLO, is there a requirement or even an > > expectation that postmas...@example.com will be able to receive e

[pfx] Re: [OT] Null MX or not?

2024-08-01 Thread Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users
Bill Cole via Postfix-users skrev den 2024-08-01 16:33: OMG, I am apparently non-human... Mail systems and their rates of abuse and/or technical trouble vary greatly. Yes, score=5.773 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AUTHRES_ARC_NONE=0.5, AUTHRES_DKIM_FAIL=0.5, AUTHRES_DMARC_NONE=1.5, DK

[pfx] Re: Do you reject DMARC failures?

2024-08-01 Thread Robert L Mathews via Postfix-users
On Jul 31, 2024, at 1:19 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users wrote: > > FYI Mailman 2 claims to rewrite From: header to fullfill DMARC requirements > only when DMARC policy is "quarantine" or "reject" That's the "dmarc_moderation_action" option in the "Sender filters" section of the

[pfx] QueueId for rcpt-to milter?

2024-08-01 Thread postfix--- via Postfix-users
Im sure the answer is NO, but you don't know if you don't ask. Is there anyway to get postfix to assign the queueId before invoking the milters during the rcpt-to stage? My end goal is trying to track the email, so logic in the milter during the rcpt-to stage can have a header added later in th

[pfx] Re: Do you reject DMARC failures?

2024-08-01 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Robert L Mathews via Postfix-users wrote in : |On Jul 31, 2024, at 1:19 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users \ | wrote: |> FYI Mailman 2 claims to rewrite From: header to fullfill DMARC requireme\ |> nts only when DMARC policy is "quarantine" or "reject" | |That's the "dmarc_moderati

[pfx] Re: QueueId for rcpt-to milter?

2024-08-01 Thread Bill Cole via Postfix-users
On 2024-08-01 at 16:04:59 UTC-0400 (Thu, 01 Aug 2024 16:04:59 -0400) postfix--- via Postfix-users is rumored to have said: Im sure the answer is NO, but you don't know if you don't ask. You're wrong :) Is there anyway to get postfix to assign the queueId before invoking the milters during t

[pfx] Re: QueueId for rcpt-to milter?

2024-08-01 Thread postfix--- via Postfix-users
Is there anyway to get postfix to assign the queueId before invoking the milters during the rcpt-to stage? smtpd_delay_open_until_valid_rcpt = no Thanks. No wonder i couldn't find it by searching for Queue Id in the docs. I didn't think to search for NOQUEUE. ___

[pfx] Re: QueueId for rcpt-to milter?

2024-08-01 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Bill Cole via Postfix-users: > On 2024-08-01 at 16:04:59 UTC-0400 (Thu, 01 Aug 2024 16:04:59 -0400) > postfix--- via Postfix-users > is rumored to have said: > > > Im sure the answer is NO, but you don't know if you don't ask. > > You're wrong :) > > > Is there anyway to get postfix to assign t

[pfx] Re: QueueId for rcpt-to milter?

2024-08-01 Thread postfix--- via Postfix-users
> Is there anyway to get postfix to assign the queueId before invoking > the milters during the rcpt-to stage? smtpd_delay_open_until_valid_rcpt = no Almost: the RCPT TO is valid AFTER the Milter accepts it. Wietse I don't understand what you mean by that. I did a test, set the dela

[pfx] Re: QueueId for rcpt-to milter?

2024-08-01 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
postfix--- via Postfix-users: > >> > Is there anyway to get postfix to assign the queueId before invoking > >> > the milters during the rcpt-to stage? > >> > >> smtpd_delay_open_until_valid_rcpt = no > > > > > > Almost: the RCPT TO is valid AFTER the Milter accepts it. That is the case with "sm

[pfx] Re: Use different transport map for submission

2024-08-01 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
D?vis Mos?ns via Postfix-users: > ceturtd., 2024. g. 1. aug., plkst. 09:10 ? lietot?js Wietse Venema via > Postfix-users () rakst?ja: > > > > Davis Mosans via Postfix-users: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm trying to setup Postfix in a way that will forward/relay all mail > > > on SMTP port 25 but send ou

[pfx] Re: Null MX or not?

2024-08-01 Thread John Levine via Postfix-users
It appears that Laura Smith via Postfix-users said: > > > >> My doubt is that since the outgoing email server identifies itself as >> host1.example.com in the EHLO, is there a requirement or even an >> expectation that postmas...@example.com will be able to receive email. > > >I think the reality