Re: Using Postfix sendmail without having Postfix daemon running all the time?

2020-08-06 Thread Nicky Thomassen
YMMW, but I solved this using ssmtp to replace sendmail. According to Arch it may be poor choice, since it is not maintained https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSMTP Just my 2 cents Thu, 6 Aug 2020 09:44:24 +0300 skrev Otto Kekäläinen : > Hello! > > Is it possible to send email using the

Re: TLS Settings and Mobile Clients

2020-08-06 Thread @lbutlr
On 05 Aug 2020, at 16:08, Asai wrote: > The main question is just what will break if we allow TLS only. Software more than a decade old that is unsupported. TLSv1.0 and 1.1 should no longer be used for anything but opportunistic unvalidated encryption on port 25, no non TLS should be used under

Re: TLS Settings and Mobile Clients

2020-08-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 03:25:22PM -0700, Asai wrote: > In trying to upstep our general security, we're trying to implement some > of the recommendations on this list: > https://access.redhat.com/articles/1468593 > > It seems like the bulk of this is in raising the encryption on SMTP > deliver

Re: TLS Settings and Mobile Clients

2020-08-06 Thread @lbutlr
On 06 Aug 2020, at 02:09, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > - Yes, on the *submission* ports serving mail clients, you SHOULD > disable all TLS versions older than TLSv1.2. This may break > some rather dated versions of Outlook. These should be upgraded, > rather than neglected. I would not expect an

Re: Using Postfix sendmail without having Postfix daemon running all the time?

2020-08-06 Thread Ansgar Wiechers
On 2020-08-06 Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Is it possible to send email using the Postfix provided > /usr/sbin/sendmail command on a system where Postfix is installed, > but not running permanently as a service? You could wrap the command in a script that starts and stops the Postfix service when invo

Re: Forwarding best practices

2020-08-06 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 5.08.2020 o godz. 14:23:00 Bob Proulx pisze: > > The Best Practice for forwarding today is not to do it. It has long > been a friendly allowed practice on the net. But as Yahoo, Google, > Microsoft, others, become the 800lb gorillas driving things then > nothing is traditional or standard

Re: Forwarding best practices

2020-08-06 Thread @lbutlr
On 06 Aug 2020, at 04:32, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 5.08.2020 o godz. 14:23:00 Bob Proulx pisze: >> >> The Best Practice for forwarding today is not to do it. It has long >> been a friendly allowed practice on the net. But as Yahoo, Google, >> Microsoft, others, become the 800lb gorillas dri

Re: Forwarding best practices

2020-08-06 Thread Kris Deugau
Bob Proulx wrote: No matter what you do on your end there is no way to guarentee that the large mailbox providers will accept the forwarded messages. FTFY. :( Because at any point in time any of those users might click "Spam" on the message. And there is no way you can prevent this. It's a

Re: Forwarding best practices

2020-08-06 Thread Harald Koch
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, at 09:53, Kris Deugau wrote: > > I can only guess that the "Mark as spam" button looks a lot like a > "Delete" symbol of some kind, or I have to give up all hope of > intelligence on the part of end users. In many of the email programs I use, J/K are the "next message/previ

Re: Forwarding best practices

2020-08-06 Thread Miles Fidelman
The Best Practice for forwarding today is not to do it. It has long been a friendly allowed practice on the net. But as Yahoo, Google, Microsoft, others, become the 800lb gorillas driving things then nothing is traditional or standard anymore. Now it is the rule of might makes right. And th

Re: Using Postfix sendmail without having Postfix daemon running all the time?

2020-08-06 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 09:44:24AM +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Is it possible to send email using the Postfix provided > /usr/sbin/sendmail command on a system where Postfix is installed, but > not running permanently as a service? Sure, the sendmail command will just deposit the mail into the

Re: Using Postfix sendmail without having Postfix daemon running all the time?

2020-08-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 09:44:24AM +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Is it possible to send email using the Postfix provided > /usr/sbin/sendmail command on a system where Postfix is installed, but > not running permanently as a service? Not the upstream Postfix version signed by Wietse. Apple hav

Re: Using Postfix sendmail without having Postfix daemon running all the time?

2020-08-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 02:38:21PM -0400, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > Otherwise, provided max_idle is less than the wakeup timer for "pickup", > the cost is modest. Postfix idles down to just 3 processes: Correction, typo, max_idle should be *greater* than the wakeup timer for pickup. -- Vikto

Postfix is no longer forwarding root mail after I changed the forwarding address

2020-08-06 Thread PopeRigby
I have Postfix setup to automatically forward any mail that goes to root to an external address. I just recently changed my email main email address from a Tutanota one to a Mailbox.org one. I went into /etc/aliases and switched out my addresses there, so now it looks like this: > # See man 5

Re: Postfix is no longer forwarding root mail after I changed the forwarding address

2020-08-06 Thread Robert Cooper
did you run 'newaliases'? You shouldn't need to restart postfix to change an alias. RobertC From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org on behalf of PopeRigby Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 13:51 To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Postfix is no longer forward

Re: Postfix is no longer forwarding root mail after I changed the forwarding address

2020-08-06 Thread PopeRigby
On Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:55:34 AM PDT Robert Cooper wrote: > did you run 'newaliases'? You shouldn't need to restart postfix to change an > alias. > > > RobertC > > > > > From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org on > behalf of PopeRigby Sent: Thursday, Aug

Re: Using Postfix sendmail without having Postfix daemon running all the time?

2020-08-06 Thread Bill Cole
On 6 Aug 2020, at 14:38, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: A doable, but perhaps non-trivial, programming project would be to start with Apple's Postfix sources, and port that functionality to BSD and/or Linux. Not very doable, because the trigger was handled by launchd, Apple's systemd-like facility.

Re: Using Postfix sendmail without having Postfix daemon running all the time?

2020-08-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 03:32:11PM -0400, Bill Cole wrote: > > A doable, but perhaps non-trivial, programming project would be to > > start with Apple's Postfix sources, and port that functionality to > > BSD and/or Linux. > > Not very doable, because the trigger was handled by launchd, Apple's