Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Hello all members of this list, I have a kind request to all of you related to deliverability of my messages. Please help. Currently I have an issue (again; the previous one from a few months ago was resolved) with my messages sent to Gmail users - they are put into recipients' Spam folders. I ma

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2020-03-20 14:34, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: Thank you in advance! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on localhost.junc.eu X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.1, required=5.0, Autolearn=no autolearn_force=no, LastExt=2604:8d00:0:1::4 X-Spam-Rules_score: DCC_CHECK=1.9,DKIM_I

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-20 Thread @lbutlr
On 19 Mar 2020, at 00:16, Philip Paeps wrote: > On 2020-03-18 09:51:45 (+0800), Wesley Peng wrote: >> Following this guide: >> https://useplaintext.email/ >> >> Shall we use plaintext message in regular email communication? > > You should use what the content of the message needs modulo your rec

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Benny Pedersen: > On 2020-03-20 14:34, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > > Thank you in advance! > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on > localhost.junc.eu > X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.1, required=5.0, Autolearn=no > autolearn_force=no, > LastExt=2604:8d00:0:1::4 > X-Spam-R

postfix tuninh

2020-03-20 Thread natan maciej milaszewski
Hi Sorry for to trivial e-mail and stupid question.I have a dedicated bare-metal server. I need some tunig postfix to faster delivery (every time i look in qshappe -it's good) Amvis and dovecot is in the external server to. virtual_transport = lmtp:inet:10.0.100.5:24 now i change: lmtp_destinati

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread @lbutlr
On 20 Mar 2020, at 07:34, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Currently I have an issue (again; the previous one from a few months ago was > resolved) with my messages sent to Gmail users - they are put into > recipients' Spam folders. I managed to actually reach someone at Google, > who told me that this is d

Re: postfix tuninh

2020-03-20 Thread Wietse Venema
natan maciej milaszewski: > Hi > Sorry for to trivial e-mail and stupid question.I have a dedicated > bare-metal server. I need some tunig postfix to faster delivery (every > time i look in qshappe -it's good) > Amvis and dovecot is in the external server to. > > > virtual_transport = lmtp:inet:1

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Jaroslaw Rafa: > Hello all members of this list, > > I have a kind request to all of you related to deliverability of my > messages. Please help. > > Currently I have an issue (again; the previous one from a few months ago was > resolved) with my messages sent to Gmail users - they are put into >

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Jaroslaw Rafa: > It looks like the only way to get me out of this condition is that all of > you who have a Gmail address look in their Spam folder for my messages, and > click "This is not spam" if you find any, to train the Google's AI that my > messages are not spam. That's what I'm asking you.

Re: postfix tuning

2020-03-20 Thread natan maciej milaszewski
Hi Thanx Wietse :) i realy read logs and tested via smtp-source (as You advised) 1)smtp-source -c -m 1000 -s 1 -C 1 -f a...@domain.ltd -t a...@domain.lt inet:127.0.0.1:25 Mar 20 16:29:07 mta-mx postfix/smtp[29226]: 48kSNL0YT4z20nvD: to=, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10628, conn_use=17, delay=33, de

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 20.03.2020 o godz. 08:12:10 @lbutlr pisze: > On 20 Mar 2020, at 07:34, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > Currently I have an issue (again; the previous one from a few months ago was > > resolved) with my messages sent to Gmail users - they are put into > > recipients' Spam folders. I managed to actual

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-20 Thread Gerard E. Seibert
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 08:02:19 -0600, @lbutlr stated: >On 19 Mar 2020, at 00:16, Philip Paeps wrote: >> On 2020-03-18 09:51:45 (+0800), Wesley Peng wrote: >>> Following this guide: >>> https://useplaintext.email/ >>> >>> Shall we use plaintext message in regular email communication? >> >> You

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 20.03.2020 o godz. 11:06:20 Wietse Venema pisze: > Would it help if the postfix list used "dmarc mitigation" so that > the From header does not contain your email address: > > From: Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-Users > Reply-To: Jaroslaw Rafa That probably could help, because Google won't see

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-20 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 20.03.2020 o godz. 11:48:59 Gerard E. Seibert pisze: > > When I receive an email, I have two immediate choices to make; either > read it or don't read it. Let's say I decide to read it, so I press ENTER on the message header. If it's plaintext, I continue straight on to reading it. If it's H

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-20 Thread Richard Damon
On 3/20/20 11:48 AM, Gerard E. Seibert wrote: > > Honestly, I fail to see why receivers of HTML based emails seem to > feel they have a right to get themselves into a hissy fit and dictate > what type or form of email is permissible? Who made them GODS? > > When I receive an email, I have two imme

Re: postfix tuning

2020-03-20 Thread Wietse Venema
natan maciej milaszewski: > Hi > Thanx Wietse :) i realy read logs and tested via smtp-source (as You > advised) > > > 1)smtp-source -c -m 1000 -s 1 -C 1 -f a...@domain.ltd -t a...@domain.lt > inet:127.0.0.1:25 How realistic is it to flood your system with 1000 messages? Fortunately they were se

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2020-03-20 16:52, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: Dnia 20.03.2020 o godz. 11:06:20 Wietse Venema pisze: Would it help if the postfix list used "dmarc mitigation" so that the From header does not contain your email address: From: Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-Users Reply-To: Jaroslaw Rafa That probably

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 20.03.2020 o godz. 17:25:35 Benny Pedersen pisze: > > if you belive dkim is the problem at google one can disable dkim > signer and restest that mails is not going to spam folder at google In my case, DKIM is not the problem. The problem - for Google - is that the message is from me as the s

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Dominic Raferd
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 16:29, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 20.03.2020 o godz. 17:25:35 Benny Pedersen pisze: > > > > if you belive dkim is the problem at google one can disable dkim > > signer and restest that mails is not going to spam folder at google > > In my case, DKIM is not the problem. > T

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-20 Thread Gerard E. Seibert
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:07:00 +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa stated: >Dnia 20.03.2020 o godz. 11:48:59 Gerard E. Seibert pisze: >> >> When I receive an email, I have two immediate choices to make; either >> read it or don't read it. > >Let's say I decide to read it, so I press ENTER on the message header.

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-20 Thread Ben Lavender
I prefer text/plain myself, it gets rid of all the annoying marketing images and silly fonts people like to use. It also proves a point that modern day marketing of nice long mail signatures with company branding on them can be pointless when milters and antispam services remove most of them an

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Resending Jaroslaw Rafa's message, so that people who don't see his email can see it here. Apparently, Gmail considers Jaroslaw;s email address as a source of spam, because his postfix-users messages are sent to many people in a relatively short time. So if you could look in your spam folder and

now officially [OT]; was Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-20 Thread charlie derr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 3/20/20 3:29 PM, Ben Lavender wrote: > I prefer text/plain myself, it gets rid of all the annoying > marketing images and silly fonts people like to use. It also proves > a point that modern day marketing of nice long mail signatures with > compan

Re: Gmail and spam, a request

2020-03-20 Thread Damian
Oh Lord. > Resending Jaroslaw Rafa's message, so that people who don't see his > email can see it here. > > Apparently, Gmail considers Jaroslaw;s email address as a source > of spam, because his postfix-users messages are sent to many people > in a relatively short time. > > So if you could loo

Re: Always_bcc with aliases

2020-03-20 Thread Prince Law Offices
Thanks for the response, and sorry for my delayed reaction. I understand that always_bcc should send a copy to the address indicated or the alias of the address indicated. My situation is slightly different. It’s the initial recipient (the To:) that is aliased AND uses a transport to execute

Re: Always_bcc with aliases

2020-03-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Prince Law Offices: > Thanks for the response, and sorry for my delayed reaction. > > I understand that always_bcc should send a copy to the address > indicated or the alias of the address indicated. My situation is > slightly different. It?s the initial recipient (the To:) that is > aliased A