Avoid mail loop

2020-03-18 Thread ego...@gmail.com
Hello everybody, I am using a Postfix mail relay to modify sender addresses of emails coming from my company Office 365 cloud-hosted domain: I configured a connector on Office 365 to route all emails to Postfix. Everything works perfectly, except for some recipient domains that are also hosted on o

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 18.03.2020 o godz. 02:51:45 Wesley Peng pisze: > > Following this guide: > https://useplaintext.email/ > > Shall we use plaintext message in regular email communication? Absolutely. Email basically is, was and should remain plaintext. Use HTML only when it's absolutely necessary. By "neces

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread Billy Lin
Agree! On 18/3/20 9:51 am, Wesley Peng wrote: Hello Following this guide: https://useplaintext.email/ Shall we use plaintext message in regular email communication? Thanks

Re: Avoid mail loop

2020-03-18 Thread Dusan Obradovic
> On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:45 AM, ego...@gmail.com wrote: > > host xxx-xxx.mail.protection.outlook.com[X.X.X.X] said: 554 5.4.14 Hop > count exceeded - possible mail loop ATTR1 > [xxx-xxx.prod.protection.outlook.com] (in reply to end of DATA > command) > I suspect this is based on received heade

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On 18/03/2020 02:40, Anton Rieger wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:51:45AM +0100, Wesley Peng wrote: >> Hello > Hello > >> >> Following this guide: >> https://useplaintext.email/ > I don't like it's tone but it's mostly ok > >> >> Shall we use plaintext message in regular email communication? >

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 2020-03-18 11:27, Darac Marjal wrote: > There is clearly a desire among users for something more than plain > text. You often want *emphasis* in flame wars. You want a table in > reporting your financial results or when listing various things. > However, I think everyone can agree that "Responsi

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 18.03.2020 o godz. 15:27:24 Darac Marjal pisze: > > I'd argue then, that a middle ground is the way forward. Emails should > be written in a markup language which is both relatively simple (yet > flexible enough to handle the basic formatting commands) and human > readable before (and after)

Re: Avoid mail loop

2020-03-18 Thread Wietse Venema
Dusan Obradovic: > > > On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:45 AM, ego...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > host xxx-xxx.mail.protection.outlook.com[X.X.X.X] said: 554 5.4.14 Hop > > count exceeded - possible mail loop ATTR1 > > [xxx-xxx.prod.protection.outlook.com] (in reply to end of DATA > > command) > > > > I sus

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 18.03.2020 o godz. 16:52:10 m...@junc.eu pisze: > On 2020-03-18 03:40, Anton Rieger wrote: > > >Do xyz like you see in image1.png. > >Lorem Ipsum look at image2.png. > > images is not html > > and OP asked to do plain text, not remove inline images attachments inline images != image at

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread me
On 2020-03-18 02:51, Wesley Peng wrote: Shall we use plaintext message in regular email communication? to make the postfix digest maillist look better yes :=)

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread me
On 2020-03-18 03:40, Anton Rieger wrote: Do xyz like you see in image1.png. Lorem Ipsum look at image2.png. images is not html and OP asked to do plain text, not remove inline images attachments /me hiddes before the fire starts burning now

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread Wietse Venema
I think this train has left the station almost 30 years ago. The only people who care about plaintext are people who were born before circa 1980, or who are part of some extremist minority. Wietse.

Re: Avoid mail loop

2020-03-18 Thread ego...@gmail.com
Thanks Dusan and Wietse, I searched in postfix log files and I can confirm that looping emails have the same ID. "Normal" emails ID appear in the log files a few times (depending on the number of recipients I suppose), but looping emails appear many times: 14 times db8p195mb0565dd65da92d1861c8946

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread Harald Koch
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020, at 11:27, Darac Marjal wrote: > Markdown is a very good step > towards this, IMO. Oh the irony... >From the initial announcement of Markdown by John Gruber >(https://web.archive.org/web/20040402182332/http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/): " the single biggest sou

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread Anton Rieger
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 03:27:24PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: On 18/03/2020 02:40, Anton Rieger wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:51:45AM +0100, Wesley Peng wrote: Hello Hello Following this guide: https://useplaintext.email/ I don't like it's tone but it's mostly ok Shall we use plaint

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread johnea
On 2020-03-18 09:08, Wietse Venema wrote: > I think this train has left the station almost 30 years ago. The > only people who care about plaintext are people who were born before > circa 1980, > or who are part of some extremist minority. Which includes anyone who even _knows_ what comprises t

Re: Avoid mail loop

2020-03-18 Thread Wietse Venema
ego...@gmail.com: > Thanks Dusan and Wietse, I searched in postfix log files and I can > confirm that looping emails have the same ID. "Normal" emails ID > appear in the log files a few times (depending on the number of > recipients I suppose), but looping emails appear many times: > > 14 times >

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread James B. Byrne
Has anyone considered the absolute want of utility that image data presents for the blind? The advantage of plain text is that there are any number of automated assists that can process it into audio. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive d

Re: should we use plaintext for message?

2020-03-18 Thread Philip Paeps
On 2020-03-18 09:51:45 (+0800), Wesley Peng wrote: Following this guide: https://useplaintext.email/ Shall we use plaintext message in regular email communication? You should use what the content of the message needs modulo your recipients' wishes. I personally prefer to receive plain text