NDR when failed to forward mail to external address, now blacklisted on backscatterer

2019-06-28 Thread Claudio Kuenzler
Hello all, A shared hosting web server of a customer (running a Postfix with local e-mail addresses and mailboxes) was blacklisted on backscatterer. The relevant information from the backscatterer page pointed me to a moment in time and I was able to check the logs from that given moment (+- 2mins

Re: Rejecting mail based on a Milter results

2019-06-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Jun 27, 2019, at 12:38 AM, post...@aptget.dk wrote: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 20:23:44 -0600 skrev "@lbutlr" : The spamass-milter is not rejecting mail that scores above the number set in the -r flag for the milter (confirmed by other people this is a bug in spamass-milter). Is there something I can

Re: NDR when failed to forward mail to external address, now blacklisted on backscatterer

2019-06-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 28.06.19 10:10, Claudio Kuenzler wrote: A shared hosting web server of a customer (running a Postfix with local e-mail addresses and mailboxes) was blacklisted on backscatterer. The relevant information from the backscatterer page pointed me to a moment in time and I was able to check the logs

Re: mbox format?

2019-06-28 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Ronald F. Guilmette! > Apparently, and much to my surprise, there is more than one mbox format. > I just now stumbled across this, because I am going to be (re-)writing > some small tools I have that do useful things with mail messages stored > in "mbox format": > https://en.wikip

Re: Rejecting mail based on a Milter results

2019-06-28 Thread @lbutlr
On Jun 28, 2019, at 2:22 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 27.06.19 11:57, @lbutlr wrote: >> Possibly it is an 11.2 issue then. > > check sa-milter RC script. doesn't it redefine reject score on commandline > somewhere? It does, it just doesn’t actually reject the mail. In facts, in behave

Re: mbox format?

2019-06-28 Thread @lbutlr
On Jun 28, 2019, at 5:28 AM, Andrey Repin wrote: > Guess why I'm using Maildir? Because mbox was designed for a tens of Kilobytes of email? -- What's another word for Thesaurus?

Re: Rejecting mail based on a Milter results

2019-06-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Jun 28, 2019, at 2:22 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 27.06.19 11:57, @lbutlr wrote: Possibly it is an 11.2 issue then. check sa-milter RC script. doesn't it redefine reject score on commandline somewhere? It does, it just doesn’t actually reject the mail. In facts, in behaves exac

Re: mbox format?

2019-06-28 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, @lbutlr! >> Guess why I'm using Maildir? > Because mbox was designed for a tens of Kilobytes of email? I have doubts it was at all designed. More like thrown together for the sake of plugging the hole of mail storage. On a sidenote, I've seen a variation of mbox format that uses an F

Re: NDR when failed to forward mail to external address, now blacklisted on backscatterer

2019-06-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:26:20AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >My question now is: What is the correct/expected behaviour in such a > >situation? > > You apparently should use SRS when forwarding mail. That will change sender > to your domain so the mail will pass SPF and should not b

Re: mbox format?

2019-06-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Andrey Repin: > Greetings, @lbutlr! > > >> Guess why I'm using Maildir? > > > Because mbox was designed for a tens of Kilobytes of email? > > I have doubts it was at all designed. More like thrown together for the sake > of plugging the hole of mail storage. Allow me to set the record straight.

Re: NDR when failed to forward mail to external address, now blacklisted on backscatterer

2019-06-28 Thread Dominic Raferd
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 14:48, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:26:20AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > >My question now is: What is the correct/expected behaviour in such a > > >situation? > > > > You apparently should use SRS when forwarding mail. That will change >

Re: NDR when failed to forward mail to external address, now blacklisted on backscatterer

2019-06-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 03:11:03PM +0100, Dominic Raferd wrote: > > SRS is enough to avoid trouble with SPF, but not enough to avoid > > trouble with DMARC. Email forwarding has been irreparably broken > > by DMARC. > > Where the original rejected-by-Gmail email appears good my approach > (autom

Re: NDR when failed to forward mail to external address, now blacklisted on backscatterer

2019-06-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
>My question now is: What is the correct/expected behaviour in such a >situation? On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:26:20AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: You apparently should use SRS when forwarding mail. That will change sender to your domain so the mail will pass SPF and should not be refus

Re: NDR when failed to forward mail to external address, now blacklisted on backscatterer

2019-06-28 Thread Bill Cole
On 28 Jun 2019, at 10:25, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >My question now is: What is the correct/expected behaviour in such a >situation? On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:26:20AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: You apparently should use SRS when forwarding mail. That will change sender to yo

Re: Rejecting mail based on a Milter results

2019-06-28 Thread @lbutlr
On Jun 28, 2019, at 6:42 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 28.06.19 06:01, @lbutlr wrote: >> root 23945 0.0 0.3 31560 10908 - Ss Sun14 0:14.52 >> /usr/local/sbin/spamass-milter -f -p /var/run/spamass-milter.sock -u spamd >> -e -i 65.121.55.40/29 -i 127.0.0.1 -r 10 > > do

Re: mbox format?

2019-06-28 Thread @lbutlr
On Jun 28, 2019, at 6:39 AM, Andrey Repin wrote: > Greetings, @lbutlr! > >>> Guess why I'm using Maildir? > >> Because mbox was designed for a tens of Kilobytes of email? > > I have doubts it was at all designed. More like thrown together for the sake > of plugging the hole of mail storage. T