Hello,
I should not have used this list as an example :) because it undermined
my point.
> messages on the Postfix mailing list
> usually score with deep negative values in SpamAssassin. You're barking
> up the wrong tree here. ;-)
My interest in spam is due to the apparent move that email is sl
Hi,
> i noted that it's possible to get dmarc fail on postfix maillist
>
> its spf none, dkim none, dmarc fail, in my tests, arc is not tested or
> planned to be in use
I tested your two emails for DKIM, and both failed for me.
The ones by Noel and Ralph did get through. I used dkimverify.py
fr
> You might want to look into something like the Logstash
> (https://www.elastic.co/products/logstash).
looks promising! thanks you!
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 10:11:14 -0600
James Reynolds wrote:
> You might want to look into something like the Logstash
> (https://www.elastic.co/products/logstash
Hi,
I'm using Postfix 2.7.1 for some years now on our systems, built around our
XStreamOS / illumos distro.
I'm considering to upgrade Postfix to a more recent version.
What is the best upgrade path I should choose?
Should I really consider to upgrade directly to latest (3.2.2) or maybe start
by
I save correlated logs from postfix (and milter daemons) in mongodb.
https://www.balabit.com/documents/syslog-ng-ose-latest-guides/en/syslog-ng-ose-guide-admin/html/configuring-destinations-mongodb.html
https://www.balabit.com/documents/syslog-ng-ose-latest-guides/en/syslog-ng-ose-guide-admin/htm
On 29.08.2017 09:21, Rick van Rein wrote:
> [...] DKIM, SPF and DMARC are of interest to any mail flow.
They sure are. If you browse through mailing list archives of years gone
by, you can find my own messages about list X or Y breaking DKIM, SPF or
both. Also, people have been passionate about R
Rick van Rein:
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> Hi,
>
> > i noted that it's possible to get dmarc fail on postfix maillist
> >
> > its spf none, dkim none, dmarc fail, in my tests, arc is not tested or
> > planned to be in use
>
>
> I tested your two emails for DKIM, and both failed for me.
On 29 Aug 2017, at 04:54, Ralph Seichter wrote:
> If you need an example (to name but one), see the Roundcube Users
> mailing list, which still adds a footer to the message bodies, thus
> breaking DKIM. Very easily prevented by flipping a configuration switch,
> alas the list admins don't seem to
Thank you all. It's working fine. Kind regards.
Am 28.08.2017 um 18:47 schrieb Darek M.:
An MTA only looks at the envelope To for routing. You can put
anything you want in the message To header, so you could rewrite it
any way you need to.
On 8/28/2017 12:04 PM, Nils wrote:
Hi,
when c
@lbutlr skrev den 2017-08-29 13:42:
There are very good reasons for footers on many lists, and DKIM should
be smart enough to figure this out.
its solved in arc ?
i still dont know if arc will replace dmarc or not, if maillists stop
breaking dkim, then dmarc and arc is not needed at all
to
On 29 Aug 2017, at 06:00, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> let me come with a joke now, if we stop verifying dkim to the first mail
> signature and just say all under that sig is mailllist forged content we did
> not open a can of worms to solve afterwards ?
>
> i think people need to rethink more why b
On 29.08.2017 13:42, @lbutlr wrote:
> There are very good reasons for footers on many lists, and DKIM should
> be smart enough to figure this out.
I disagree about "very good reasons for footers on many lists". Meta
information belongs into the message headers, not the body. DKIM-signed
messages
Hah,
Thanks for the pointers, especially Ralph!
> I disagree about "very good reasons for footers on many lists". Meta
> information belongs into the message headers, not the body.
I've been thinking along those lines too... there could easily be new
header definitions for "Suggested Tagging" an
On 2017-08-29 14:12:29 (+0200), Ralph Seichter wrote:
On 29.08.2017 13:42, @lbutlr wrote:
There are very good reasons for footers on many lists, and DKIM should
be smart enough to figure this out.
I disagree about "very good reasons for footers on many lists". Meta
information belongs into th
Hi,
Please consider adding option for including References header in postfix
bounce messages.
Sender app (i.e. ticket processing suff like OTRS) will be happy to use
it to automatically merge bounce message to the same thread as original
message which may save time in bigger setups.
Similar requ
On 8/29/2017 8:12 AM, Ralph Seichter wrote:
I disagree about "very good reasons for footers on many lists". Meta
information belongs into the message headers, not the body. DKIM-signed
messages are letters, not postcards, and no non-totalitarian postal
service would dare open your letter and scri
Philip Paeps skrev den 2017-08-29 15:18:
Scribbling in the body also breaks PGP signatures. At least that's
trivially worked around by adding the list footer in a separate MIME
part as many lists do. But DKIM still doesn't like that.
imho opendkim can limit body content signing (body length)
Norton Allen skrev den 2017-08-29 15:43:
The problem with sticking all the list meta-information in the headers
is that most users have no idea how to access email headers or parse
them for the salient information.
squirrelmail have plugin for list-id headers, that plugin is not in
roundcube
On 8/29/2017 3:58 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using Postfix 2.7.1 for some years now on our systems, built
> around our XStreamOS / illumos distro.
>
> I'm considering to upgrade Postfix to a more recent version.
> What is the best upgrade path I should choose?
> Should I really cons
On 29.08.2017 15:43, Norton Allen wrote:
> The problem with sticking all the list meta-information in the headers
> is that most users have no idea how to access email headers or parse
> them for the salient information.
I see it as a MUA's task to present meta information in a palatable way,
but
wietse:
OK, now please (install and) use ltrace. This provides more details
what happens in postqueue itself (strace gives insight into system
calls, i.e. the postqueue-kernel interface).
off-list...
I installed ltrace.
I modified pfqgrep: $mailq = "/usr/bin/ltrace /usr/sbin/postqueue -p |"
A. Schulze:
off-list...
ok not "off list", my fault :-)
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:58:08AM +0200, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
> I'm using Postfix 2.7.1 for some years now on our systems, built around our
> XStreamOS / illumos distro.
> I'm considering to upgrade Postfix to a more recent version.
> What is the best upgrade path I should choose?
See:
It's clear that list items in main.cf can be comma or space separated. Is
that also true for alias and virtual lists?
Thanks.
-Tom
A. Schulze:
> There are two strings looking like a queueid in this trace:
> 3xhXFj2Wt7z4FL3* and 3xhXDS3PqBz4FK9*
>
> that are two messages in the active queue just in the moment I run the
> command above.
> postfix delivered both messages as usual...
To clarify, this panic call happens with ar
Tom Browder skrev den 2017-08-29 18:36:
It's clear that list items in main.cf [1] can be comma or space
separated. Is that also true for alias and virtual lists?
simple question, simple answer
postconf -nf
postconf -Mf
this can be used to create new configs with, just remember backup old
one
Tom Browder:
> It's clear that list items in main.cf can be comma or space separated. Is
> that also true for alias and virtual lists?
What is an alias or virtual list?
Wietse
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 15:46 Wietse Venema wrote:
> Tom Browder:
> > It's clear that list items in main.cf can be comma or space separated.
> Is
> > that also true for alias and virtual lists?
>
> What is an alias or virtual list?
I mean the RHS of aliases, e.g., as in simple mailing lists in
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 16:10 Tom Browder wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 15:46 Wietse Venema wrote:
>
>> Tom Browder:
>> > It's clear that list items in main.cf can be comma or space separated.
>> Is
>> > that also true for alias and virtual lists?
>>
>> What is an alias or virtual list?
>
>
>
Tom Browder skrev den 2017-08-29 23:11:
needles:
j...@examp.com
bu...@foo.com
It seems to work so I guess spaces instead of commas are ok.
to test it:
postmap -q needless maptype:mapfile
postmap -q needless hash:/etc/mail/aliases
Gmail has a list of steps recommended to minimize spam identification,
particularly mail sent as bulk mail (as from mailing lists).
One of the recommendations is to use DKIM and that is clearly explained on
the postfix website.
The other steps are fairly straight forward, also, but how does one a
It would help to have a link to Gmail's suggestions.
This website tests dkim and spf.
http://dkimvalidator.com
Original Message
From: tom.brow...@gmail.com
Sent: August 29, 2017 4:10 PM
To: postfix-users@postfix.org
Subject: mitigating gmail spam traps: how does one add the required header
Tom Browder:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 15:46 Wietse Venema wrote:
>
> > Tom Browder:
> > > It's clear that list items in main.cf can be comma or space separated.
> > Is
> > > that also true for alias and virtual lists?
> >
> > What is an alias or virtual list?
>
>
> I mean the RHS of aliases, e
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 09:10:26PM +, Tom Browder wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 15:46 Wietse Venema wrote:
>
> > Tom Browder:
> > > It's clear that list items in main.cf can be comma or space separated.
> > Is
> > > that also true for alias and virtual lists?
> >
> > What is an alias or v
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Wietse Venema wrote:
> Tom Browder:
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 15:46 Wietse Venema wrote:
>> > What is an alias or virtual list?
>>
>> I mean the RHS of aliases, e.g., as in simple mailing lists in the alias
>> file:
>>
>> needles:
>> j...@examp.com
>> bu...@f
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Gary wrote:
> It would help to have a link to Gmail's suggestions.
Good idea, Gary. Here it is:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126?hl=en
-Tom
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Viktor Dukhovni
wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 09:10:26PM +, Tom Browder wrote:
>> > Tom Browder:
>> > > It's clear that list items in main.cf can be comma or space separated.
>> > Is
>> > > that also true for alias and virtual lists?
...
>> I mean the RHS of
On 8/29/17 8:12 AM, Ralph Seichter wrote:
On 29.08.2017 13:42, @lbutlr wrote:
There are very good reasons for footers on many lists, and DKIM should
be smart enough to figure this out.
I disagree about "very good reasons for footers on many lists". Meta
information belongs into the message hea
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