Re: tls vs ssl

2010-03-02 Thread Noel Jones
On 3/2/2010 2:30 PM, Daniel L. Miller wrote: Victor Duchovni wrote: On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 11:33:48AM -0800, Daniel L. Miller wrote: 192.168.0.110:126 inet n - - - - smtpd -o smtpd_tls_security_level=may -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reje

Re: tls vs ssl

2010-03-02 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 12:30:21PM -0800, Daniel L. Miller wrote: > Ok - inferring from that, I tried: > 192.168.0.110:128 inet n - - - - smtpd > -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes > -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes > -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authentic

Re: tls vs ssl

2010-03-02 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Victor Duchovni wrote: On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 11:33:48AM -0800, Daniel L. Miller wrote: 192.168.0.110:126 inet n - - - - smtpd -o smtpd_tls_security_level=may -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject

Re: tls vs ssl

2010-03-02 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 11:33:48AM -0800, Daniel L. Miller wrote: > 192.168.0.110:126 inet n - - - - smtpd > -o smtpd_tls_security_level=may > -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes > -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject > > connect with Thund

Re: tls vs ssl

2010-03-02 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Timo Sirainen wrote: I would have sworn I used to use Thunderbird with "SSL" specified and connected to my Postfix servers fine. Now, I can only connect in "TLS" mode. What did I break? You no longer have smtps port enabled? excerpted from master.cf - using non-standard port numbers f

Re: tls vs ssl

2010-03-02 Thread Wietse Venema
Charles Marcus: > On 2010-03-02 2:51 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > You've likely been using STARTTLS only, which doesn't require a key exchange > > as SSL/TLS does. > > ? You sure about that? I use only STARTTLS, and I always have to do the > 'Confirm Security Exception' dance to accept the certifi

Re: tls vs ssl

2010-03-02 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-03-02 2:51 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > You've likely been using STARTTLS only, which doesn't require a key exchange > as SSL/TLS does. ? You sure about that? I use only STARTTLS, and I always have to do the 'Confirm Security Exception' dance to accept the certificate the first time I send a

RE: tls vs ssl

2010-03-02 Thread Jonathan Tripathy
and That's my take on it... -Original Message- From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org on behalf of Stan Hoeppner Sent: Tue 3/2/2010 07:51 To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: tls vs ssl Daniel L. Miller put forth on 3/2/2010 1:18 AM: > OK - I'm an idiot. I'll jus

Re: tls vs ssl

2010-03-02 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 2.3.2010, at 9.18, Daniel L. Miller wrote: > OK - I'm an idiot. I'll just admit that up front and get it out of the way. > > Now that that's settled, what is the difference between "SSL" and "TLS" > in a MUA - particularly Thunderbird - in a Postfix context? http://wiki.dovecot.org/SSL tries

Re: tls vs ssl

2010-03-02 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Bill Landry put forth on 3/2/2010 2:01 AM: > On 3/1/2010 11:51 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Daniel L. Miller put forth on 3/2/2010 1:18 AM: >>> OK - I'm an idiot. I'll just admit that up front and get it out of the >>> way. >>> >>> Now that that's settled, what is the difference between "SSL" and "

Re: tls vs ssl

2010-03-02 Thread Bill Landry
On 3/1/2010 11:51 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Daniel L. Miller put forth on 3/2/2010 1:18 AM: OK - I'm an idiot. I'll just admit that up front and get it out of the way. Now that that's settled, what is the difference between "SSL" and "TLS" in a MUA - particularly Thunderbird - in a Postfix cont

Re: tls vs ssl

2010-03-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Daniel L. Miller put forth on 3/2/2010 1:18 AM: > OK - I'm an idiot. I'll just admit that up front and get it out of the > way. > > Now that that's settled, what is the difference between "SSL" and "TLS" > in a MUA - particularly Thunderbird - in a Postfix context? > > I would have sworn I used

tls vs ssl

2010-03-01 Thread Daniel L. Miller
OK - I'm an idiot. I'll just admit that up front and get it out of the way. Now that that's settled, what is the difference between "SSL" and "TLS" in a MUA - particularly Thunderbird - in a Postfix context? I would have sworn I used to use Thunderbird with "SSL" specified and connected to my P