Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-19 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 09:45:12PM -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > On 2022 Apr 15, at 16:53, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 04:30:19PM -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > > > >> However, it is *very* common for a BBC email to have a To header with > >> no email address in it at all, > > > > Thi

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-19 Thread @lbutlr
On 2022 Apr 15, at 16:53, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 04:30:19PM -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > >> However, it is *very* common for a BBC email to have a To header with >> no email address in it at all, > > This violates RFC5322 and earlier versions. No it does not. > The "To:" h

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-16 Thread David Neil
On 16/04/2022 10.53, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 04:30:19PM -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > >> However, it is *very* common for a BBC email to have a To header with >> no email address in it at all, > > This violates RFC5322 and earlier versions. The "To:" header must > contain at l

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread li...@lazygranch.com
On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:06:35 +0200 Tinne11 wrote: > > > Am 15.04.2022 um 08:49 schrieb Fourhundred Thecat > > <400the...@gmx.ch>: > > > > Are there any legitimate cases where "to:" might be missing? > > > RFC 5322 says: "The only required header fields are the origination > date field and

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 04:30:19PM -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > However, it is *very* common for a BBC email to have a To header with > no email address in it at all, This violates RFC5322 and earlier versions. The "To:" header must contain at least one address (or group). https://datatracker.ie

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread @lbutlr
> On 2022 Apr 15, at 07:30, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > On 2022-04-15 10:47, Bernardo Reino wrote: > >> Many e-mails are sent to "BCC" lists, so they have no To: header (or >> have one with "undisclosed-recipients"). > > bcc does not remove or add to No, and that's not what what said. However

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread Bernardo Reino
On Fri, 15 Apr 2022, Benny Pedersen wrote: On 2022-04-15 10:47, Bernardo Reino wrote: Many e-mails are sent to "BCC" lists, so they have no To: header (or have one with "undisclosed-recipients"). bcc does not remove or add to I didn't say that :) (maybe the "so they have no.." implied so

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2022-04-15 10:47, Bernardo Reino wrote: Many e-mails are sent to "BCC" lists, so they have no To: header (or have one with "undisclosed-recipients"). bcc does not remove or add to So I'd be careful with rejecting/filtering only based on that. spammers does not know all that details :=)

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2022-04-15 08:49, Fourhundred Thecat wrote: I am receiving spam emails, where the "to:" line is entirely missing in the email header. The header has "X-Original-To:" and "Delivered-To:", but no "to:" line. I have pasted the header here: https://ctxt.io/2/AABg30FRFQ How could I block such e

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 15.04.2022 o godz. 02:21:46 li...@lazygranch.com pisze: > > The header doesn't look odd because the mailing list provides a TO > field. No, it doesn't. I don't see any "To:" field in the headers of Tinne11's message. I do see a "Cc:" field, but not "To:". And referring to the original quest

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread Peter
On 15/04/22 6:49 pm, Fourhundred Thecat wrote: I am receiving spam emails, where the "to:" line is entirely missing in the email header. The header has "X-Original-To:" and "Delivered-To:", but no "to:" line. I have pasted the header here: https://ctxt.io/2/AABg30FRFQ How could I block such em

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread Bernardo Reino
On Fri, 15 Apr 2022, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:06:35 +0200 Tinne11 wrote: Am 15.04.2022 um 08:49 schrieb Fourhundred Thecat <400the...@gmx.ch>: Are there any legitimate cases where "to:" might be missing? RFC 5322 says: "The only required header fields are the o

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread li...@lazygranch.com
On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:06:35 +0200 Tinne11 wrote: > > > Am 15.04.2022 um 08:49 schrieb Fourhundred Thecat > > <400the...@gmx.ch>: > > > > Are there any legitimate cases where "to:" might be missing? > > > RFC 5322 says: "The only required header fields are the origination > date field and

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread Tinne11
> Am 15.04.2022 um 08:49 schrieb Fourhundred Thecat <400the...@gmx.ch>: > > Are there any legitimate cases where "to:" might be missing? RFC 5322 says: "The only required header fields are the origination date field and the originator address field(s).", i. e. the "Date:" and the "From:" head

Re: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread Bernardo Reino
On Fri, 15 Apr 2022, Fourhundred Thecat wrote: I am receiving spam emails, where the "to:" line is entirely missing in the email header. [...] Are there any legitimate cases where "to:" might be missing? Many e-mails are sent to "BCC" lists, so they have no To: header (or have one with "und

AW: spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-15 Thread Ludi Cree
dred Thecat Gesendet: Freitag, 15. April 2022 08:49 An: Postfix users Betreff: spam emails with "to:" line missing Hello, I am receiving spam emails, where the "to:" line is entirely missing in the email header. The header has "X-Original-To:" and "Delivered-

spam emails with "to:" line missing

2022-04-14 Thread Fourhundred Thecat
Hello, I am receiving spam emails, where the "to:" line is entirely missing in the email header. The header has "X-Original-To:" and "Delivered-To:", but no "to:" line. I have pasted the header here: https://ctxt.io/2/AABg30FRFQ How could I block such emails? Can I use header-check for this?