Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-22 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <20160122213312.gk25...@mournblade.imrryr.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 03:14:22PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > > You might > > also want to report that the keys they use are less than LOW security > > but that might be a feature. > > You're mistaken

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-22 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 03:14:22PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > You might > also want to report that the keys they use are less than LOW security > but that might be a feature. You're mistaken. These ciphers are HIGH. > Note that none of the ciphers used by comcast.net support even low > s

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-22 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <20160122041647.gh25...@mournblade.imrryr.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 10:55:19PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > > It took a while to get a dumpfile. My tcpdump command only covered a > > subset of comcast.net mailhosts. > > > > This has a failed TLS

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-21 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 10:55:19PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > It took a while to get a dumpfile. My tcpdump command only covered a > subset of comcast.net mailhosts. > > This has a failed TLS negotiation and a few packets from a next > attempt. The log entry below covers this first conne

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-21 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <20160115235712.gn...@mournblade.imrryr.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 06:47:38PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > > Viktor, > > > > If you are still interested below is a tcpdump. > > > > If not interested, please just delete. > > I was looking for a

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-15 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <20160115235712.gn...@mournblade.imrryr.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 06:47:38PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > > Viktor, > > > > If you are still interested below is a tcpdump. > > > > If not interested, please just delete. > > I was looking for a

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-15 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 06:47:38PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > Viktor, > > If you are still interested below is a tcpdump. > > If not interested, please just delete. I was looking for a binary PCAP file, not an ASCII decode. Yes, it would be good to know whether Comcast was having ECDSA

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-15 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <88031027-d5b8-4f48-947d-294302fac...@dukhovni.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > Post a PCAP file of a single failed TLS handshake. I know the person > at comcast in charge of their email transport security. I can probably > get them to fix it once we nail down the problem, assuming it

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-15 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <20160115051749.gl...@mournblade.imrryr.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:54:13PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > > > > > > smtp_tls_ciphers = high > > > > > > > > > > Usually best to leave this at "medium". This is opportunistic > > > > > TLS,

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:54:13PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > > > > smtp_tls_ciphers = high > > > > > > > > Usually best to leave this at "medium". This is opportunistic > > > > TLS, and if high fails, you'll send cleartext, which is NOT > > > > stronger than medium. > > >

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-14 Thread Curtis Villamizar
Hi Viktor, I really appreciate all of the good information you have provided. We are going in circles in a few places because we have different goals. See comments inline and at the end of this message. In message <20160114212645.gk...@mournblade.imrryr.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > > On Thu,

Re: TLSv1.0 (was Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS)

2016-01-14 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <20160114200215.gj...@mournblade.imrryr.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 02:07:07PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > > In message > > Curtis Villamizar writes: > > > > > btw - I just added "!TLSv1.0" to get only TLSv1.2. I wasn't sure I > > > could specif

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 03:53:23PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > > smtp_tls_ciphers = high > > > > Usually best to leave this at "medium". This is opportunistic > > TLS, and if high fails, you'll send cleartext, which is NOT > > stronger than medium. > > That's actually fine

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-14 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <20160114175729.gg...@mournblade.imrryr.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:06:43PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > > /usr/local/sbin/postconf -c /etc/postfix -n | grep tls > > > > smtp_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/cert.pem > > smtp_tls_key_file = /etc/post

Re: TLSv1.0 (was Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS)

2016-01-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 02:07:07PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > In message > Curtis Villamizar writes: > > > btw - I just added "!TLSv1.0" to get only TLSv1.2. I wasn't sure I > > could specify !TLSv1.0 so I just tried it. Who said the correct name is "TLSv1.0"? http://www.postfix.o

TLSv1.0 (was Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS)

2016-01-14 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message Curtis Villamizar writes: > btw - I just added "!TLSv1.0" to get only TLSv1.2. I wasn't sure I > could specify !TLSv1.0 so I just tried it. > > Curtis oops that didn't work. Curtis

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:06:43PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > /usr/local/sbin/postconf -c /etc/postfix -n | grep tls > > smtp_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/cert.pem > smtp_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/key.pem Usually best to not configure client certificates. > smtp_tls_ciphers = high

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-14 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <88031027-d5b8-4f48-947d-294302fac...@dukhovni.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > > > On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Curtis Villamizar > > wrote: > > > > The logs revealed something about the nature of the problem. A few of > > these sort of messages were found. > > > > Jan 13 17:08:22 m

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-13 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <3pgpvv0nvczj...@spike.porcupine.org> Wietse Venema writes: > Curtis Villamizar: > > What I'd like to do is set smtpd_tls_security_level back to "may" and > > then somehow set it to "none" if the EHLO domain is comcast.net (oops > > the secret is out). > > > > I see we have smtp_tls_p

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-13 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Curtis Villamizar > wrote: > > The logs revealed something about the nature of the problem. A few of > these sort of messages were found. > > Jan 13 17:08:22 mta3 postfix/smtpd[15958]: > warning: TLS library problem: > error:1408A0C1:SSL > routines:ssl3_ge

Re: selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-13 Thread Wietse Venema
Curtis Villamizar: > What I'd like to do is set smtpd_tls_security_level back to "may" and > then somehow set it to "none" if the EHLO domain is comcast.net (oops > the secret is out). > > I see we have smtp_tls_policy_maps, but no smtpd_tls_policy_maps. Use this to suppress the STARTTLS announce

selective disable of smtpd opportunistic TLS

2016-01-13 Thread Curtis Villamizar
I turned on opportunistic TLS last summer I think. All was fine for a long time. btw - I'm currently running the FreeBSD postfix-current-3.0.20151003,4 port but previously used 2.8. Somewhat recently someone with a residential cable provider account complained that he got mail from me but mail f