Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Birta Levente: > > This turns out to be problematic, so I won't change this for now. > > Postfix should probably throttle destinations that persistently > > drop connections after deferring mail. It is a strong hint that the > > SMTP client is not welcome. > > Just for confirmation: 20140223 shoul

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-28 Thread Birta Levente
On 24/02/2014 02:59, Wietse Venema wrote: Wietse Venema: Birta Levente: On 21/02/2014 15:44, Wietse Venema wrote: The behavior that you seem to prefer (throttle down domains after 4XX reply to "MAIL FROM") is really a bug in the Postfix SMTP client implementation. Postfix normally does not th

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-23 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > Birta Levente: > > On 21/02/2014 15:44, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > The behavior that you seem to prefer (throttle down > > > domains after 4XX reply to "MAIL FROM") is really a bug in the > > > Postfix SMTP client implementation. > > > > > > Postfix normally does not throttle down

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-21 Thread Wietse Venema
Birta Levente: > On 21/02/2014 15:44, Wietse Venema wrote: > > The behavior that you seem to prefer (throttle down > > domains after 4XX reply to "MAIL FROM") is really a bug in the > > Postfix SMTP client implementation. > > > > Postfix normally does not throttle down domains after 4XX reply to >

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-21 Thread Birta Levente
On 21/02/2014 15:44, Wietse Venema wrote: Wietse Venema: The behavior that you seem to prefer (throttle down domains after 4XX reply to "MAIL FROM") is really a bug in the Postfix SMTP client implementation. Postfix normally does not throttle down domains after 4XX reply to "MAIL FROM". The bug

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-21 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: The behavior that you seem to prefer (throttle down domains after 4XX reply to "MAIL FROM") is really a bug in the Postfix SMTP client implementation. Postfix normally does not throttle down domains after 4XX reply to "MAIL FROM". The bug is that Postfix treats server-side disconne

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-21 Thread Birta Levente
On 21/02/2014 13:41, Wietse Venema wrote: Birta Levente: plaintext retries possibily raising this to four. We had considered special-casing "4XX" replies as a reason to not retry plaintext when TLS connections are lost. If your more complete logs demonstrate a need to do that, we may add the r

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-21 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > Birta Levente: > > > plaintext retries possibily raising this to four. > > > > > > We had considered special-casing "4XX" replies as a reason to not > > > retry plaintext when TLS connections are lost. If your more complete > > > logs demonstrate a need to do that, we may add the

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-21 Thread Wietse Venema
Birta Levente: > > plaintext retries possibily raising this to four. > > > > We had considered special-casing "4XX" replies as a reason to not > > retry plaintext when TLS connections are lost. If your more complete > > logs demonstrate a need to do that, we may add the requisite logic. > > > > Pl

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-21 Thread Birta Levente
On 19/02/2014 17:15, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 03:00:25PM +0200, Birta Levente wrote: With 2.12.20140209 I get hundreds defferals because: Feb 19 05:21:59 srv2 postfix-slow/smtp[14313]: Untrusted TLS connection established to mta5.am0.yahoodns.net[98.138.112.38]:25: TLSv1

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-19 Thread Wietse Venema
Try postfix-2.12-20140219 (from ftp.porcupine.org). The "fall back to plaintext" strategy is refined such that persistent breakage after the TLS handshake is now again reported as a "destination" problem, at least on the first pass over the MX hosts. Later, Postfix will retry plaintext after TLS fa

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-19 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 03:00:25PM +0200, Birta Levente wrote: > With 2.12.20140209 I get hundreds defferals because: > > Feb 19 05:21:59 srv2 postfix-slow/smtp[14313]: Untrusted TLS > connection established to mta5.am0.yahoodns.net[98.138.112.38]:25: > TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-19 Thread Wietse Venema
Birta Levente: > With 2.12.20140209 I get hundreds defferals because: > > Feb 19 05:21:59 srv2 postfix-slow/smtp[14313]: Untrusted TLS connection > established to mta5.am0.yahoodns.net[98.138.112.38]:25: TLSv1 with > cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits) > Feb 19 05:21:59 srv2 postfix-sl

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-19 Thread Birta Levente
On 19/02/2014 15:19, Wietse Venema wrote: Wietse Venema: Birta Levente: I have a problem with Postfix 2.12 Snapshot 20140209. The qmgr_queue_throttle never fired up for destinations which go through slow transport and obviously the delivery never suspended to these few destinations. Mails whic

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-19 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > Birta Levente: > > I have a problem with Postfix 2.12 Snapshot 20140209. > > > > The qmgr_queue_throttle never fired up for destinations which go through > > slow transport and obviously the delivery never suspended to these few > > destinations. > > Mails which go out "normally",

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-19 Thread Birta Levente
On 19/02/2014 13:57, Wietse Venema wrote: Birta Levente: I have a problem with Postfix 2.12 Snapshot 20140209. The qmgr_queue_throttle never fired up for destinations which go through slow transport and obviously the delivery never suspended to these few destinations. Mails which go out "normal

Re: qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-19 Thread Wietse Venema
Birta Levente: > I have a problem with Postfix 2.12 Snapshot 20140209. > > The qmgr_queue_throttle never fired up for destinations which go through > slow transport and obviously the delivery never suspended to these few > destinations. > Mails which go out "normally", i.e. not through slow transp

qmgr_queue_throttle not fired up in 2.12.20140209

2014-02-18 Thread Birta Levente
Hi I have a problem with Postfix 2.12 Snapshot 20140209. The qmgr_queue_throttle never fired up for destinations which go through slow transport and obviously the delivery never suspended to these few destinations. Mails which go out "normally", i.e. not through slow transport, seems to throttle: