Re: posttls-finger / DANE failure

2017-10-18 Thread Mal
On 18/10/2017 3:56 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: >> dnssec-validation no; > > This is ignored for authoritative zones, and useful for recursive > servers. So long as your server continues to provide both authoritative > and recursive service (not a good idea), you should leave this in place. > >

Re: posttls-finger / DANE failure

2017-10-17 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 5:58 AM, Mal wrote: > > Bingo. That information certainly explains the behavior observed. > > Does this therefore require DNSSEC-validation to be set to "no" (for the > authoritative NS): > dnssec-enable yes; This must stay "yes" or else you DoS your domain. > dnss

Re: posttls-finger / DANE failure

2017-10-17 Thread Mal
On 18/10/2017 1:17 AM, /dev/rob0 wrote: > Um, validation is exclusively done on NON-authoritative lookup > results. I'm not sure what you are thinking. In order: This was pointed out previously. > 1. dnssec-enable no; would prevent your BIND server from serving > required records from a si

Re: posttls-finger / DANE failure

2017-10-17 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 08:28:02PM +1030, Mal wrote: > On 17/10/2017 7:14 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > > So it seems that the machine in question has the authoritative > > server for the zone as its recursive server. Such mixing of > > authoritative and recursive workloads is discouraged thes

Re: posttls-finger / DANE failure

2017-10-17 Thread Mal
On 17/10/2017 7:14 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > So it seems that the machine in question has the authoritative > server for the zone as its recursive server. Such mixing of > authoritative and recursive workloads is discouraged these days, > and critically, it breaks DANE in Postfix for any aut

Re: posttls-finger / DANE failure

2017-10-17 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 3:58 AM, Mal wrote: > >> There's no such thing as "AD records". > > Was just a shortcut for 'Authoritative domain record'. I've never seen that phrase before. > The zone exists on that resolver and is queried directly. > Will avoid lo[o]se english in future. So it seem

Re: posttls-finger / DANE failure

2017-10-17 Thread Mal
On 17/10/2017 5:11 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > The only way to find out they don't exist is to ask. Very good. > No TLSA records were found, perhaps because the "A" records were > reported insecure, or because the TLSA records don't exist. TLSA record is present. The sys4 Dane SMTP validato

Re: posttls-finger / DANE failure

2017-10-16 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 01:56:39PM +1030, Mal wrote: > This MTA is a dual stack postfix machine, which also has a dual stack > resolver running. Not clear how this is relevant... > When testing DANE to a remove IPv4 only MTA, I see an attempt to lookup > a non-existent record by posttls-fin

posttls-finger / DANE failure

2017-10-16 Thread Mal
Hello This MTA is a dual stack postfix machine, which also has a dual stack resolver running. When testing DANE to a remove IPv4 only MTA, i see an attempt to lookup a non-existent record by posttls-finger. The remote site has only IPv4 records in the zone, except for the zone NS records,