Re: [OT] Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-07 Thread Wietse Venema
Eliezer Croitoru: > On 07/03/2012 02:33, Wietse Venema wrote: > > Eliezer Croitoru: > >> i dont care about any init scripts on whatever else then when there is > >> this specific problem of mismatching binding an ip that dosnt exist to > >> be checked using the "postfix check" method on terminal an

Re: [OT] Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 04:01:47PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > So you need a way for "postfix start" that returns status 0 if the > master(8) daemon initalizes successfully, and non-zero otherwise. > > I think this can be done by starting the master as a foreground > process. The foreground ma

Re: [OT] Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
On 07/03/2012 02:33, Wietse Venema wrote: Eliezer Croitoru: i dont care about any init scripts on whatever else then when there is this specific problem of mismatching binding an ip that dosnt exist to be checked using the "postfix check" method on terminal and not only on log. Sorry, only the

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
On 06/03/2012 14:17, Jerry wrote: On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:37:02 +0200 Eliezer Croitoru articulated: OS:Gentoo latest built with kernel 3.2.1 with hardened profile POSTFIX: v 2.9.1 when i'm configuring on master.cf some listening to port on ip address that doesn't exist on any interface such as f

Re: [OT] Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Eliezer Croitoru: > i dont care about any init scripts on whatever else then when there is > this specific problem of mismatching binding an ip that dosnt exist to > be checked using the "postfix check" method on terminal and not only on log. Sorry, only the master daemon knows that it can't acc

Re: [OT] Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
On 06/03/2012 21:30, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 03/06/12 14:10, Wietse Venema wrote: Eray Aslan: On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 11:48:35AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: I think that making everyone wait would be another example of well-meaning people doing things that give Postfix a bad reputation. p

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
On 06/03/2012 21:10, Wietse Venema wrote: Eray Aslan: On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 11:48:35AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: I think that making everyone wait would be another example of well-meaning people doing things that give Postfix a bad reputation. postfix start exits successfully but postfix

Re: [OT] Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Eray Aslan
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 04:01:47PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > So you need a way for "postfix start" that returns status 0 if the > master(8) daemon initalizes successfully, and non-zero otherwise. Correct. > I think this can be done by starting the master as a foreground > process. The foregr

Re: [OT] Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Eray Aslan: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 02:30:59PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > either. Right now the problem is easy to understand: half of the time on > > Gentoo, the startup "OK" is meaningless. Everyone knows this, and > > figures out how to deal with it quickly: > > > > backup2 ~ # /etc

Re: [OT] Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Eray Aslan
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 02:30:59PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > either. Right now the problem is easy to understand: half of the time on > Gentoo, the startup "OK" is meaningless. Everyone knows this, and > figures out how to deal with it quickly: > > backup2 ~ # /etc/init.d/postfix stop >

Re: [OT] Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Michael Orlitzky: > backup2 ~ # killall -9 /usr/lib64/postfix/master > backup2 ~ # /etc/init.d/postfix start >* WARNING: postfix has already been started That is a bug in an init script, and is the responsibility of the OS-specific maintainer. Postfix does not provide init/upstart/systemd/

[OT] Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/06/12 14:10, Wietse Venema wrote: > Eray Aslan: >> On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 11:48:35AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: >>> I think that making everyone wait would be another example of >>> well-meaning people doing things that give Postfix a bad reputation. >> >> postfix start exits successfully b

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Eray Aslan: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 11:48:35AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > I think that making everyone wait would be another example of > > well-meaning people doing things that give Postfix a bad reputation. > > postfix start exits successfully but postfix doesn't work, resulting in a > WT

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 3/6/2012 10:48 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: > - Turning on chroot by default. Many Debian etc. users get into > trouble when they make an innocuous configuration change to the > SMTP daemon. Postfix has no defense for this brain damage. Is this the syslog socket issue Wietse or another issue? Deb

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Eray Aslan
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 11:48:35AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > I think that making everyone wait would be another example of > well-meaning people doing things that give Postfix a bad reputation. postfix start exits successfully but postfix doesn't work, resulting in a WTF moment for the user.

Re: [SPAM] Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Stéphane MERLE
Le 06/03/2012 17:48, Wietse Venema a écrit : Eray Aslan: On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:40:16AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: start Start the Postfix mail system. This also runs the configuration check described above. status Indicate if the Postfix mail system is currently run

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Eray Aslan: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:40:16AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > >start Start the Postfix mail system. This also runs the configuration > > check described above. > > > >status Indicate if the Postfix mail system is currently running. > > This does introduce a non-ne

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Eray Aslan
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:40:16AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: >start Start the Postfix mail system. This also runs the configuration > check described above. > >status Indicate if the Postfix mail system is currently running. This does introduce a non-negligible delay in startu

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Eray Aslan: > # postfix start > postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail system > # echo $? > 0 As documented in the Postfix manpage: start Start the Postfix mail system. This also runs the configuration check described above. status Indicate if the Postfix mail system

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Eray Aslan
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:03:04AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > /etc/postfix/master.cf: > > 1.2.3.4:25 inet n - n - 1 whatever > > > > # postfix stop > > # postfix start > > # tail -3 /var/log/maillog > > Mar 6 06:53:25 tail postfix/master[60082]: terminating

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:37:02 +0200 Eliezer Croitoru articulated: > OS:Gentoo latest built with kernel 3.2.1 with hardened profile > POSTFIX: v 2.9.1 > when i'm configuring on master.cf some listening to port on ip > address that doesn't exist on any interface such as for communicating > with amavi

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > Eliezer Croitoru: > > OS:Gentoo latest built with kernel 3.2.1 with hardened profile > > POSTFIX: v 2.9.1 > > when i'm configuring on master.cf some listening to port on ip address > > that doesn't exist on any interface such as for communicating with > > amavis (as if my ip is 1

Re: found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Eliezer Croitoru: > OS:Gentoo latest built with kernel 3.2.1 with hardened profile > POSTFIX: v 2.9.1 > when i'm configuring on master.cf some listening to port on ip address > that doesn't exist on any interface such as for communicating with > amavis (as if my ip is 192.168.0.20 and i will put

found a "bug" on postfix 2.9.1

2012-03-06 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
OS:Gentoo latest built with kernel 3.2.1 with hardened profile POSTFIX: v 2.9.1 when i'm configuring on master.cf some listening to port on ip address that doesn't exist on any interface such as for communicating with amavis (as if my ip is 192.168.0.20 and i will put 192.168.0.21:25 ) postfix w