Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-21 Thread @lbutlr
On Tue Sep 20 2016 18:40:17 Sebastian Nielsensaid: > > I would really suggest using DISCARD instead of "500 This TLD sends spam - g > e t lost.". > Thus the spammer dosen't get to know he got stuck in a spam filter and can > update their tools to bypass it. > > DISCARD accepts the mail but th

DISCARD vs REJECT (Was: Re: TLD blocking revisited)

2016-09-21 Thread Bill Cole
On 20 Sep 2016, at 20:40, Sebastian Nielsen wrote: I would really suggest using DISCARD instead of "500 This TLD sends spam - g e t lost.". Thus the spammer dosen't get to know he got stuck in a spam filter and can update their tools to bypass it. Note that in this specific case of junk TLD

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-21 Thread Wietse Venema
James Reynolds: > I use check_sender_access and DISCARD to throw away about 1500-4000 > messages a day from .top domains (which is about the volume of my > legit email). I looked into it and most of them are registered > to namecheap.com, which appears to sell the names for for $.98 > each. I did

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-21 Thread James Reynolds
I use check_sender_access and DISCARD to throw away about 1500-4000 messages a day from .top domains (which is about the volume of my legit email). I looked into it and most of them are registered to namecheap.com, which appears to sell the names for for $.98 each. I did a little research into

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-21 Thread Allen Coates
On 21/09/16 02:35, Jim Reid wrote: > Spammers generally don’t pay that level of attention to SMTP responses, far > less fine-tune their address lists and tools. These morons just find a victim > host or botnet to blast out crap to a bazillion email addresses, not caring > if any of them work o

SV: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
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Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread Jim Reid
> On 21 Sep 2016, at 01:40, Sebastian Nielsen wrote: > > I would really suggest using DISCARD instead of "500 This TLD sends spam - g > e t lost.". > Thus the spammer dosen't get to know he got stuck in a spam filter and can > update their tools to bypass it. Spammers generally don’t pay that l

SV: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
--- Från: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] För li...@lazygranch.com Skickat: den 21 september 2016 02:23 Till: Jim Reid Kopia: Postfix Users Ämne: Re: TLD blocking revisited Tell ya what. Let's hold the suggestions here. This one looks like someth

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread lists
ginal Message   From: Jim Reid Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:56 PM To: li...@lazygranch.com Cc: Postfix Users Subject: Re: TLD blocking revisited > On 20 Sep 2016, at 21:10, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > > What is the simplest way to block a TLD? Put the offending TLD in a map and hav

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread Bill Cole
On 20 Sep 2016, at 16:10, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: ‎After studying these spam messages, I think postfix blocking via tld is the only solution. The problem is the message is embedded in graphics with brief text regarding "if you can't view this click here". There isn't enough to trip the spa

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread Jim Reid
> On 20 Sep 2016, at 21:10, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > > What is the simplest way to block a TLD? Put the offending TLD in a map and have that map referenced through check_sender_access and/or check_client_access. ie in main.cf: smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_mynetworks

SV: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
Im using the following to block TLDs, but not in helo checks, im using sender checks instead: /\.bid$/ DISCARD /\.top$/ DISCARD /\.xyz$/ DISCARD /\.pro$/ DISCARD /\.date$/ DISCARD /\.faith$/ DISCARD /\.download$/ DISCARD DISCARD blocks the mail without telling the sender the mail was blocked so

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread @lbutlr
On Tue Sep 20 2016 14:10:17 li...@lazygranch.com said: > > ‎After studying these spam messages, I think postfix blocking via tld is the > only solution. The problem is the message is embedded in graphics with brief > text regarding "if you can't view this click here". There isn't enough

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2016-09-20 22:10, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: ‎After studying these spam messages, I think postfix blocking via tld is the only solution. The problem is the message is embedded in graphics with brief text regarding "if you can't view this click here". There isn't enough to trip the spam bot. 

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread lists
‎After studying these spam messages, I think postfix blocking via tld is the only solution. The problem is the message is embedded in graphics with brief text regarding "if you can't view this click here". There isn't enough to trip the spam bot.  What is the simplest way to block a TLD?

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread lists
Original Message   From: Alice Wonder Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:49 AM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: TLD blocking revisited On 09/19/2016 05:29 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > The last time TLD blocking came up, the consensus of the hive was not > to block based o

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread Alice Wonder
On 09/19/2016 05:29 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: The last time TLD blocking came up, the consensus of the hive was not to block based on TLD. (You may recall .xyz being used by Alphabet.) However lately I'm getting a ridiculous number of .stream SPAM coming through. The RBLs are getting abou

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-20 Thread li...@lazygranch.com
https://topicdesk.com/downloads/tutorials/spamassassin-filter-for-new-tlds-xyz-info-ninja-etc/ I used this, more or less. It wasn't exactly set up for freebsd. The directory needed is at /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin PS: Benny, is that your real email address? I'd like to take this off the list

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2016-09-20 04:08, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: OK. Would I score it in SpamAssassin? If not, where? Point me in the right direction and I assume Google will be my friend. make a tld list in enlist, score that enlist in spamassassin, if need more help mail me

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-19 Thread lists
OK. Would I score it in SpamAssassin? If not, where? Point me in the right direction and I assume Google will be my friend.   Original Message   From: Michael J Wise Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 6:54 PM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: TLD blocking revisited Block? No. +Score

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-19 Thread Michael J Wise
Block? No. +Score? Yes. But this is the Postfix list, and ... this really belongs elsewhere. > The last time TLD blocking came up, the consensus of the hive was not > to block based on TLD. (You may recall .xyz being used by > Alphabet.) However lately I'm getting a ridiculous number of .stream

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-19 Thread lists
more you add, the more likely you get false positives.   Original Message   From: /dev/rob0 Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 6:11 PM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Reply To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: TLD blocking revisited On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 05:29:51PM -0700, li

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-19 Thread /dev/rob0
On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 05:29:51PM -0700, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > The last time TLD blocking came up, the consensus of the hive was > not to block based on TLD. (You may recall .xyz being used by > Alphabet.) However lately I'm getting a ridiculous number of > .stream SPAM coming through.

Re: TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2016-09-20 02:29, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: The last time TLD blocking came up, the consensus of the hive was not to block based on TLD. (You may recall .xyz being used by Alphabet.) However lately I'm getting a ridiculous number of .stream SPAM coming through. The RBLs are getting about hal

TLD blocking revisited

2016-09-19 Thread li...@lazygranch.com
The last time TLD blocking came up, the consensus of the hive was not to block based on TLD. (You may recall .xyz being used by Alphabet.) However lately I'm getting a ridiculous number of .stream SPAM coming through. The RBLs are getting about half. https://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/tlds/ I h