Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-09 Thread mouss
Marc Patermann a écrit : > Hi, > > Bastian Blank schrieb: >> On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 03:38:22AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: >>> This works as I'd expect, but will it break anything else? >> >> Yes. It will break the complete mail handling of the client. _Never_ >> ever touch a message id. > Not all

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-09 Thread Marc Patermann
Hi, Bastian Blank schrieb: On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 03:38:22AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: This works as I'd expect, but will it break anything else? Yes. It will break the complete mail handling of the client. _Never_ ever touch a message id. Not all users are dumb. ;) Sender: I'm mi

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread Jorey Bump
Victor Duchovni wrote, at 02/08/2009 03:37 PM: > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 09:08:32PM +0100, mouss wrote: > >> No, I was referring to the "Sent" folder, populated by the MUA, either >> in a local disk or using IMAP. > > I know some people clever-enough to set "Sent == Inbox", yes this is not > very

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread mouss
Victor Duchovni a écrit : > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 09:08:32PM +0100, mouss wrote: > >> No, I was referring to the "Sent" folder, populated by the MUA, either >> in a local disk or using IMAP. > > I know some people clever-enough to set "Sent == Inbox", yes this is not > very common. > > I perso

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 09:08:32PM +0100, mouss wrote: > No, I was referring to the "Sent" folder, populated by the MUA, either > in a local disk or using IMAP. I know some people clever-enough to set "Sent == Inbox", yes this is not very common. I personally have rules that tag outgoing mail in

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread mouss
M. Fioretti a écrit : > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 18:22:17 PM +0100, mouss wrote: >>> I mean replacing or deleting already set Message-Id headers. And >>> it will break MUA driven thread handling >> - very few people put their Sent mail in the same folders as >> - received mail even then, MUAs have heur

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 18:22:17 PM +0100, mouss wrote: > > I mean replacing or deleting already set Message-Id headers. And > > it will break MUA driven thread handling > > - very few people put their Sent mail in the same folders as > - received mail even then, MUAs have heuristics to cope with suc

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Feb 8, 2009, at 1:02 PM, mouss wrote: Victor Duchovni a écrit : On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 06:22:17PM +0100, mouss wrote: I mean replacing or deleting already set Message-Id headers. And it will break MUA driven thread handling - very few people put their Sent mail in the same folders as

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Feb 8, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Bastian Blank > wrote: On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 11:13:53AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: Yes. It will break the complete mail handling of the client. _Never_ ever touch a message id. Do explain how adding/replacing a valid Mess

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread mouss
Victor Duchovni a écrit : > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 06:22:17PM +0100, mouss wrote: > >>> I mean replacing or deleting already set Message-Id headers. And it will >>> break MUA driven thread handling >> - very few people put their Sent mail in the same folders as received mail >> - even then, MUAs

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 06:22:17PM +0100, mouss wrote: > > I mean replacing or deleting already set Message-Id headers. And it will > > break MUA driven thread handling > > - very few people put their Sent mail in the same folders as received mail > - even then, MUAs have heuristics to cope with

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread rafa
mouss wrote: and if a spam filter blocks/discards/quarantines mail because of this, it is the filter that should be blamed. I use this setup for detecting Backscatter. Until now without problems, but it's difficult to know.

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread mouss
Bastian Blank a écrit : > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 11:13:53AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: >> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: >>> Yes. It will break the complete mail handling of the client. _Never_ >>> ever touch a message id. >> Do explain how adding/replacing a valid Message-ID only to su

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 11:13:53AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: > On Sun, 08 Feb 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: > > Yes. It will break the complete mail handling of the client. _Never_ > > ever touch a message id. > Do explain how adding/replacing a valid Message-ID only to submitted mail > will "break

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 03:38:22AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: > > This works as I'd expect, but will it break anything else? > > Yes. It will break the complete mail handling of the client. _Never_ > ever touch a message id. Do explain how adding/repla

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread mouss
Sahil Tandon a écrit : > I have been asked to replace the MUA Message-ID of SASL senders with a > Postfix-generated ID. The Message-ID of incoming mail which arrives via the > same Postfix instance, but does not originate from a SASL authenticated > sender, should not be touched. The submission se

Re: Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 03:38:22AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: > This works as I'd expect, but will it break anything else? Yes. It will break the complete mail handling of the client. _Never_ ever touch a message id. Bastian -- Fascinating, a totally parochial attitude. -- Spock

Replacing Message-Id for SASL authenticated senders

2009-02-08 Thread Sahil Tandon
I have been asked to replace the MUA Message-ID of SASL senders with a Postfix-generated ID. The Message-ID of incoming mail which arrives via the same Postfix instance, but does not originate from a SASL authenticated sender, should not be touched. The submission service runs on port 587. Are t