On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:25:52 -0400
Victor Duchovni wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:07:00PM +0200, mouss wrote:
>
> > > Well, a DNS NXDOMAIN error seems a good reason for discarding
> > > mail.
> >
> > even NXDOMAIN may be a temporary error that the admin can fix.
>
> This borders on sophis
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:07:00PM +0200, mouss wrote:
> > Well, a DNS NXDOMAIN error seems a good reason for discarding mail.
>
> even NXDOMAIN may be a temporary error that the admin can fix.
This borders on sophistry. NXDOMAIN is not a transient error that resuls
from failure to obtain the ri
Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit :
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 07:57:27PM -0400, John Peach wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:49:13 -0600
>> LuKreme wrote:
>>
>>> On 13-Jul-2009, at 16:24, Keld J__rn Simonsen wrote:
Is there a way to disambiguate between DNS timeouts and DNS errors,
and discard t
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 07:57:27PM -0400, John Peach wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:49:13 -0600
> LuKreme wrote:
>
> > On 13-Jul-2009, at 16:24, Keld J__rn Simonsen wrote:
> > > Is there a way to disambiguate between DNS timeouts and DNS errors,
> > > and discard the latter?
> >
> >
> > Why th
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:49:13 -0600
LuKreme wrote:
> On 13-Jul-2009, at 16:24, Keld J__rn Simonsen wrote:
> > Is there a way to disambiguate between DNS timeouts and DNS errors,
> > and discard the latter?
>
>
> Why the devil would you want to discard mail based on a DNS error?
> DNS errors have
On 13-Jul-2009, at 16:24, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
Is there a way to disambiguate between DNS timeouts and DNS errors,
and discard the latter?
Why the devil would you want to discard mail based on a DNS error? DNS
errors have a habit of being quite transient.
--
Lithium will no longer be
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 01:55:39PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
> Keld Jørn Simonsen:
> > > Jul 14 00:11:58 rap postfix/smtpd[1054]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
> > > rap.rap.dk[127.0.0.1]: 450 4.1.8 : Sender
> > > address rejected: Domain not found; from=
> > > to= proto=ESMTP helo= Jul 14 00:11:
Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit :
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:24:10AM +0200, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
>> Well, still problems, but of the more understandable type.
>>
>> Jul 14 00:11:58 rap postfix/smtpd[1054]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
>> rap.rap.dk[127.0.0.1]: 450 4.1.8 : Sender
>> address reject
Keld J?rn Simonsen:
> > Jul 14 00:11:58 rap postfix/smtpd[1054]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
> > rap.rap.dk[127.0.0.1]: 450 4.1.8 : Sender
> > address rejected: Domain not found; from=
> > to= proto=ESMTP helo= Jul 14 00:11:58 rap
> > postfix/smtpd[1054]: > rap.rap.dk[127.0.0.1]: 450
> > 4.1.8 :
Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
Is there a way to disambiguate between DNS timeouts and DNS errors,
and discard the latter?
Not inside postfix. You could use a sufficiently flexible
policy server for this absurd action.
I did have in main.cf:
unknown_address_reject_code = 550
... which will a
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:24:10AM +0200, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> Well, still problems, but of the more understandable type.
>
> Jul 14 00:11:58 rap postfix/smtpd[1054]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
> rap.rap.dk[127.0.0.1]: 450 4.1.8 : Sender
> address rejected: Domain not found; from=
> to=
Keld Jørn Simonsen schrieb:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:04:15AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
>> Wietse Venema:
>>> Keld J_rn Simonsen:
> OK, here goes:
>
> 1) The server replies with "good news". Postfix replies with good news.
>
> 2) The server replies with "bad news". Postfix
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:04:15AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
> Wietse Venema:
> > Keld J_rn Simonsen:
> > > > OK, here goes:
> > > >
> > > > 1) The server replies with "good news". Postfix replies with good news.
> > > >
> > > > 2) The server replies with "bad news". Postfix replies with 5xx.
>
Wietse Venema:
> Keld J_rn Simonsen:
> > > OK, here goes:
> > >
> > > 1) The server replies with "good news". Postfix replies with good news.
> > >
> > > 2) The server replies with "bad news". Postfix replies with 5xx.
> > >
> > > 3) No server reply. Postfix replies with 4xx.
> > >
> > > Is thi
Keld J?rn Simonsen:
> > OK, here goes:
> >
> > 1) The server replies with "good news". Postfix replies with good news.
> >
> > 2) The server replies with "bad news". Postfix replies with 5xx.
> >
> > 3) No server reply. Postfix replies with 4xx.
> >
> > Is this finally clear?
>
> Yes, thanks.
Keld Jørn Simonsen schrieb:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 06:37:30AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
>> Keld Jørn Simonsen:
>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:58:28PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
Keld J?rn Simonsen:
> Is there a way to disambiguate between DNS timeouts and DNS errors,
> and discard
On 14/7/09 12:10, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
OK, here goes:
1) The server replies with "good news". Postfix replies with good news.
2) The server replies with "bad news". Postfix replies with 5xx.
3) No server reply. Postfix replies with 4xx.
Is this finally clear?
Yes, thanks. But it seems
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 06:37:30AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
> Keld Jørn Simonsen:
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:58:28PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
> > > Keld J?rn Simonsen:
> > > > Is there a way to disambiguate between DNS timeouts and DNS errors,
> > > > and discard the latter?
> > >
> > >
Keld J?rn Simonsen:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:58:28PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
> > Keld J?rn Simonsen:
> > > Is there a way to disambiguate between DNS timeouts and DNS errors,
> > > and discard the latter?
> >
> > Postfix is only the messenger of the bad news. When the server
> > responds,
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:58:28PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
> Keld Jørn Simonsen:
> > Is there a way to disambiguate between DNS timeouts and DNS errors,
> > and discard the latter?
>
> Postfix is only the messenger of the bad news. When the server
> responds, Postfix acts accordingly. When the
Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
Jul 14 00:11:58 rap postfix/smtpd[1054]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from rap.rap.dk[127.0.0.1]: 450 4.1.8
: Sender address rejected: Domain not found;
from= to= proto=ESMTP helo=
Jul 14 00:11:58 rap postfix/smtpd[1054]: > rap.rap.dk[127.0.0.1]: 450
4.1.8 : Sender address r
Keld J?rn Simonsen:
> Is there a way to disambiguate between DNS timeouts and DNS errors,
> and discard the latter?
Postfix is only the messenger of the bad news. When the server
responds, Postfix acts accordingly. When the server does not
reply, Postfix assumes that this is a temporary error, bec
Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:19:40PM -0400, Rod Dorman wrote:
On Monday, July 13, 2009, 17:49:10, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
...
Are there distros that are known to have a postfix package that is set
up correctly wrt chroot?
OpenBSD
Well, I confin
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:19:40PM -0400, Rod Dorman wrote:
> On Monday, July 13, 2009, 17:49:10, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> > ...
> > Are there distros that are known to have a postfix package that is set
> > up correctly wrt chroot?
>
> OpenBSD
Well, I confine myself to Linux, as I am doing
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:49:10PM +0200, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 03:39:57PM +0200, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> > >
> > > It is chrooted.
> >
> > Thanks for spelling it out. I was just building on the defalt configuration
> > of my distro. There were many other chroot
On Monday, July 13, 2009, 17:49:10, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> ...
> Are there distros that are known to have a postfix package that is set
> up correctly wrt chroot?
OpenBSD
--
r...@polylogics.com "The avalanche has already started, it is too
Rod Dorman late for the pebbles
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 03:39:57PM +0200, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 09:26:44AM -0400, John Peach wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:24:04 +0200
> > Keld J__rn Simonsen wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> > > #
> > >
> # ==
> # service type private unpriv chroot wakeup maxproc command + args
> # (yes) (yes) (yes) (never) (100)
> # ==
> smtpin
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 09:26:44AM -0400, John Peach wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:24:04 +0200
> Keld J__rn Simonsen wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > #
> > ==
> > # service type private unpriv chroot wakeup maxproc command +
> > a
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:29:28AM -0400, John Peach wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:25:01 +0200
> Keld J__rn Simonsen wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 07:07:01AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
> > > On 7/13/2009, Keld J__rn Simonsen (k...@dkuug.dk) wrote:
> > > > I am getting it via f
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:24:04 +0200
Keld J__rn Simonsen wrote:
[snip]
> #
> ==
> # service type private unpriv chroot wakeup maxproc command +
> args # (yes) (yes) (yes) (never) (100) #
> ==
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:28:16AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
> Keld Jørn Simonsen:
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> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 07:18:03AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
> > > Keld J?rn Simonsen:
> > > > 450 indicates a temporary dns error, and I have set
> > > > u
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:25:01 +0200
Keld J__rn Simonsen wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 07:07:01AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
> > On 7/13/2009, Keld J__rn Simonsen (k...@dkuug.dk) wrote:
> > > I am getting it via fetchmail
> >
> >
> >
> > If you are getting it through fetchmail, then the
Keld J?rn Simonsen:
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> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 07:18:03AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
> > Keld J?rn Simonsen:
> > > 450 indicates a temporary dns error, and I have set
> > > unknown_address_reject_code = 550
> >
> > unknown_address_reject_code is fo
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 07:07:01AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
> On 7/13/2009, Keld Jørn Simonsen (k...@dkuug.dk) wrote:
> > I am getting it via fetchmail
>
>
>
> If you are getting it through fetchmail, then the message has already
> been delivered... so you MUST NOT reject it later, *especial
Wietse Venema:
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> Keld J_rn Simonsen:
> > 450 indicates a temporary dns error, and I have set
> > unknown_address_reject_code = 550
>
> unknown_address_reject_code is for permanent errors.
>
> In your case, the system library getnameinfo() return
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 07:18:03AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
> Keld Jørn Simonsen:
> > 450 indicates a temporary dns error, and I have set
> > unknown_address_reject_code = 550
>
> unknown_address_reject_code is for permanent errors.
>
> In your case, the system library getnameinfo() returns a
Keld J?rn Simonsen:
> 450 indicates a temporary dns error, and I have set
> unknown_address_reject_code = 550
unknown_address_reject_code is for permanent errors.
In your case, the system library getnameinfo() returns a
temporary error, therefore Postfix will reply with 450.
Since you also can't
On 7/13/2009, Keld Jørn Simonsen (k...@dkuug.dk) wrote:
> I am getting it via fetchmail
If you are getting it through fetchmail, then the message has already
been delivered... so you MUST NOT reject it later, *especially* if it is
spam - unless of course you really *want* to end up blacklisted..
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:10:18AM +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote:
>
> On Mon, July 13, 2009 10:30, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a few problems with my changed postfix configuration, maybe
> > somebody could help me?
> >
> > I am using fetchmail in cooperation with postfix, and I r
On Mon, July 13, 2009 10:30, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a few problems with my changed postfix configuration, maybe
> somebody could help me?
>
> I am using fetchmail in cooperation with postfix, and I repededly get
> the following error:
>
> fetchmail: SMTP error: 450 4.1.8 : Sende
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