Re: Scalable

2010-02-16 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 04:56:44PM +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 13.2.2010, at 0.41, Victor Duchovni wrote: > > > No, this is largely irrelevant. What matters is the IMAP performance > > they expect, that IMAP servers are reasonably CPU and memory intensive. > > From what I've seen is that IM

Re: Scalable

2010-02-15 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 13.2.2010, at 0.41, Victor Duchovni wrote: > No, this is largely irrelevant. What matters is the IMAP performance > they expect, that IMAP servers are reasonably CPU and memory intensive. From what I've seen is that IMAP servers normally take less than 1% CPU load (mainly Dovecot, but I'd thi

Re: Scalable

2010-02-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Jonathan Tripathy put forth on 2/12/2010 5:05 PM: > Hi Stan, Hi. Try to keep the discussions on list so everyone can assist. > You've hit a very good question. They don't currently have an office > email system. Staff are using their personal Hotmail accounts when they > need to send the odd ema

Re: Scalable

2010-02-12 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 06:24:59PM -0500, Aaron Wolfe wrote: > If spam filtering is going to be used, it would be wise to consider > those requirements as well. A host with 256MB of RAM is not going to be doing much heavy lifting with content inspection. -- Viktor. P.S. Morgan Stanley

Re: Scalable

2010-02-12 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Victor Duchovni wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 05:17:26PM -0500, Aaron Wolfe wrote: > >> If you want to give your client good advice, you will have to measure >> their mail flow in a meaningful way. >> How many messages per second, minute, hour, day do you need t

Re: Scalable

2010-02-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Jonathan Tripathy put forth on 2/12/2010 3:50 PM: > 2.8 Dual Core > 2GB RAM What about disk? Disk is typically the key subsystem for mail performance. Fast CPUs don't do much for mail without a fast disk subsystem. At minimum get hardware mirroring for two disks (RAID 1) and best to make them 1

Re: Scalable

2010-02-12 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 05:17:26PM -0500, Aaron Wolfe wrote: > If you want to give your client good advice, you will have to measure > their mail flow in a meaningful way. > How many messages per second, minute, hour, day do you need to handle? > How many concurrent SMTP sessions? Do they even c

Re: Scalable

2010-02-12 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Jonathan Tripathy wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Thanks for all the comments. > > The reason why I said 256MB RAM, is because that is currently what my VM > has... > > If I were to take out a dedicated server with: > > 2.8 Dual Core > 2GB RAM > > how much would that han

Re: Scalable

2010-02-12 Thread Jonathan Tripathy
Hi Everyone, Thanks for all the comments. The reason why I said 256MB RAM, is because that is currently what my VM has... If I were to take out a dedicated server with: 2.8 Dual Core 2GB RAM how much would that handle? My customer is a business, with 600 staff, however I think they just us

Re: Scalable

2010-02-12 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 05:14:30PM -, Jonathan Tripathy wrote: > My current server has 256MB RAM (It's a VM on slicehost). How many users do > you think that will handle? Is more RAM substantially more expensive? 256 MB is rather meek these days. With physical servers, one typically gets 16G

Re: Scalable

2010-02-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Aaron Wolfe put forth on 2/12/2010 11:39 AM: > It might be better to think in terms of messages per hour than number of > users. Most importantly, who are these users? Are they customers? Members of some society or club? Will these be their primary email accounts or secondary, tertiary, etc?

Re: Scalable

2010-02-12 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Jonathan Tripathy wrote: > Hi Folks, > > How scaleable is postfix and dovecot, using mysql for user databases, on one > server? > > My current server has 256MB RAM (It's a VM on slicehost). How many users do > you think that will handle? > > How much RAM/CPU would