Re: Message sent by SMTP get lost whereas those via pickup(sendmail) are OK

2021-05-17 Thread Peter
On 17/05/21 10:37 pm, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: I would disagree that port 465 with TLS-wrapper around SMTP is better than port 587 with STARTTLS. It's only your personal opinion. Port 587 with mandatory STARTTLS is in no way less secure than TLS-wrapped port 465. I used to make that argument (see b

Re: Message sent by SMTP get lost whereas those via pickup(sendmail) are OK

2021-05-17 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 17.05.2021 o godz. 21:55:22 Peter pisze: > > Port 465 = submissions = best > Port 587 with mandatory starttls = submission = acceptable I would disagree that port 465 with TLS-wrapper around SMTP is better than port 587 with STARTTLS. It's only your personal opinion. Port 587 with mandatory

Re: Message sent by SMTP get lost whereas those via pickup(sendmail) are OK

2021-05-17 Thread Peter
On 17/05/21 9:12 pm, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: Dnia 17.05.2021 o godz. 08:52:33 Chris Green pisze: Most mail clients will use sendmail rather than SMTP on port 25 (or another port) won't they? As I said my postfix works fine for sending E-Mails from my MUA (mutt) which uses sendmail. Most *desktop

Re: Message sent by SMTP get lost whereas those via pickup(sendmail) are OK

2021-05-17 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 17.05.2021 o godz. 08:52:33 Chris Green pisze: > > > > Ubuntu desktop should have Thunderbird preinstalled. Why not just try to > > send mail using a regular mail client? > > Most mail clients will use sendmail rather than SMTP on port 25 (or > another port) won't they? As I said my postfix

Re: Message sent by SMTP get lost whereas those via pickup(sendmail) are OK

2021-05-17 Thread cl
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 09:03:25AM +0200, Jeroen Geilman wrote: >It was not rejected by mail.gandi.net. > >If it was rejected by something beyond that, [1]ch...@zmbc.eu would get >a bounce notification (DSN). > >Postfix is not involved in any way. > OK, thanks. -- Chris Green

Re: Message sent by SMTP get lost whereas those via pickup(sendmail) are OK

2021-05-17 Thread Chris Green
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 10:14:45PM +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 16.05.2021 o godz. 13:58:22 Bob Proulx pisze: > > Chris Green wrote: > > > I am trying to debug it by connecting directly to port 25 on localhost > > > using telnet and composing mail that way. > > > > I highly recommend "swaks"

Re: Message sent by SMTP get lost whereas those via pickup(sendmail) are OK

2021-05-16 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 16.05.2021 o godz. 13:58:22 Bob Proulx pisze: > Chris Green wrote: > > I am trying to debug it by connecting directly to port 25 on localhost > > using telnet and composing mail that way. > > I highly recommend "swaks" the Swiss Army Knife SMTP, the all-purpose > SMTP transaction tester utili

Re: Message sent by SMTP get lost whereas those via pickup(sendmail) are OK

2021-05-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Green wrote: > I am trying to debug it by connecting directly to port 25 on localhost > using telnet and composing mail that way. I highly recommend "swaks" the Swiss Army Knife SMTP, the all-purpose SMTP transaction tester utility program for generating test emails using SMTP transactions.

Re: Message sent by SMTP get lost whereas those via pickup(sendmail) are OK

2021-05-16 Thread Bill Cole
On 2021-05-16 at 12:10:59 UTC-0400 (Sun, 16 May 2021 17:10:59 +0100) Chris Green is rumored to have said: I have postfix running on my xubuntu 21.10 desktop machine and it's working fine for sending mail from mutt which uses the 'sendmail' interface. However I have a script which attempts to s

Re: Message sent by SMTP get lost whereas those via pickup(sendmail) are OK

2021-05-16 Thread IL Ka
> > > I am trying to debug it by connecting directly to port 25 on localhost > using telnet and composing mail that way. It appears to be sent > according to the postfix mail.log but it just disappears. > It could be that it went to spam because you misused some headers while sending mail manually