Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-14 Thread mouss
Sahil Tandon a écrit : > On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, mouss wrote: > >>> What I mean by this is, if a malicious attacker send an email from >>> dam...@hotmail.com is there anyway to check that the email came from >>> hotmail.com via a DNS lookup? >> the simplest thing you can do is something like this: >>

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, James Hankins wrote: > If you could please point me to blacklists that are using Sender > Verification as qualification for being on it, I'd be interested in > seeing this. [snip off-topic noise] See: http://www.backscatterer.org/?target=sendercallouts. Please take all fo

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread James Hankins
If you could please point me to blacklists that are using Sender Verification as qualification for being on it, I'd be interested in seeing this. This feature has been around for some 10 years as a means for helping to thwart spam. It would seem to me this is a win for the spammers if the

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Noel Jones wrote: > On 9/13/2009 7:14 PM, Sahil Tandon wrote: > >On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Noel Jones wrote: > > > >>On 9/13/2009 10:45 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: > >>>On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, mouss wrote: > > smtpd_sender_restrictions = > ... > check_client_access ha

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread Noel Jones
On 9/13/2009 7:14 PM, Sahil Tandon wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Noel Jones wrote: On 9/13/2009 10:45 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, mouss wrote: smtpd_sender_restrictions = ... check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/forged_sender_wl check_sender_access has

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Noel Jones wrote: > On 9/13/2009 10:45 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: > >On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, mouss wrote: > >> > >>smtpd_sender_restrictions = > >>... > >>check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/forged_sender_wl > >>check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/forged_sender_bl >

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread Noel Jones
On 9/13/2009 10:45 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, mouss wrote: What I mean by this is, if a malicious attacker send an email from dam...@hotmail.com is there anyway to check that the email came from hotmail.com via a DNS lookup? the simplest thing you can do is something like th

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, mouss wrote: > > What I mean by this is, if a malicious attacker send an email from > > dam...@hotmail.com is there anyway to check that the email came from > > hotmail.com via a DNS lookup? > > the simplest thing you can do is something like this: > > smtpd_sender_restricti

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread mouss
Damian Myerscough a écrit : > Hello all, > > I thought there was a way in Postfix to perform DNS lookups on the > senders domain. > > For example, if I send a forged mail from my machine to say my gmail > address then > if I look at the full headers I can see the actual IP address it was > sent f

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread Wietse Venema
Damian Myerscough: > Hello all, > > I thought there was a way in Postfix to perform DNS lookups on the > senders domain. Perhaps you meant: http://www.google.com/search?q=postfix+spf This creates problems when mail is forwarded so that it comes from a different IP address. Wietse

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread Damian Myerscough
Hello all, I thought there was a way in Postfix to perform DNS lookups on the senders domain. For example, if I send a forged mail from my machine to say my gmail address then if I look at the full headers I can see the actual IP address it was sent from and it does not resolve the the forged add

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread mouss
James Hankins a écrit : > One way, albiet expensive on CPU util is reject_unverified_sender. What are the chances that dam...@largedomain does not exist? and what if this is used as a "spam trap" by hotmail? > [snip] >

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-13 Thread mouss
Damian Myerscough a écrit : > Hello, > > I had a question regarding forged mail. I wanted to know if it was > possible for Postfix for > postfix to check the integrity of incoming emails? > > What I mean by this is, if a malicious attacker send an email from > dam...@hotmail.com is > there anyway

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-12 Thread Charles Marcus
On 9/12/2009 1:00 PM, James Hankins wrote: > One way, albiet expensive on CPU util is reject_unverified_sender. > Sends probes to determine if address is valid before accepting > delivery. Careful... applying Sender Verification to all inbound mail is a form of abuse and will eventually get you on

Re: Forged Emails

2009-09-12 Thread James Hankins
One way, albiet expensive on CPU util is reject_unverified_sender. Sends probes to determine if address is valid before accepting delivery. Very effective but if a very busy system you will want to limit it's use. Also exceptions will need to be made for noreply type senders, otherwise man