Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-10 Thread mouss
Chris Turan a écrit : > Thank you to everyone. I'm getting some great suggestions. I didn't > know about several of the features postfix provides and have been > relying mostly on spamassassin to do the work for me. > >> I don't see the smtpd_*_restrictions. Sensible ones there cut down on >> a

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-09 Thread Noel Jones
Chris Turan wrote: Thank you to everyone. I'm getting some great suggestions. I didn't know about several of the features postfix provides and have been relying mostly on spamassassin to do the work for me. I don't see the smtpd_*_restrictions. Sensible ones there cut down on acres of spam a

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-09 Thread Chris Turan
Thank you to everyone. I'm getting some great suggestions. I didn't know about several of the features postfix provides and have been relying mostly on spamassassin to do the work for me. I don't see the smtpd_*_restrictions. Sensible ones there cut down on acres of spam and take load off the

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Terry Carmen
Chris Turan wrote: Terry Carmen wrote: Don't do that. Once you've accepted a message, it's yours. Aside from anything else, it makes you look bad when someone sends a legitimate email that happens to "look" spammy and you bounce it back as spam. Right, I'm trying to correct that problem. This

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Chris Turan
J Sloan wrote: Keep sending out backscatter spam, and you will most certainly end up on blacklists. I think you might have misread my intention. I definitely don't want to continue sending backscatter. Per another suggestion on the list, I made a change that stopped all of my backscatter sp

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread J Sloan
Chris Turan wrote: > > Ouch, but you're right. I am creating my own misery. It wasn't a > problem before when I was unknown to the spammers. Its only been a > problem for a few weeks and I haven't yet been put on any blacklists. Keep sending out backscatter spam, and you will most certainly end

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Chris Turan
Corey Chandler wrote: Tough-- you're really creating your own misery here. You MUST either reject at the gateway, or accept the traffic without sending a bounce. You can delete silently if you trust your filters, but given that the vast majority of spam has a forged From: header, you're inflicti

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Chris Turan
Terry Carmen wrote: Don't do that. Once you've accepted a message, it's yours. Aside from anything else, it makes you look bad when someone sends a legitimate email that happens to "look" spammy and you bounce it back as spam. Right, I'm trying to correct that problem. This wasn't much of an i

RE: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread MacShane, Tracy
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Turan > Sent: Tuesday, 9 December 2008 7:39 AM > To: Terry Carmen > Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org > Subject: Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue > >

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Corey Chandler
Chris Turan wrote: Noel Jones wrote: amavisd-new meets all your criteria, providing you configure it to tag+deliver mail rather than bounce. Well, I also have it set to bounce messages with a spamassassin score above 12. Turning that off and just delivering everything with tagging *could*

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Terry Carmen
Chris Turan wrote: Terry Carmen wrote: To eliminate *sending* backscatter, all you need to do is not accept mail you won't be able to deliver: I am rejecting unknown recipients but the bounces are coming from messages with a spamassassin score above 12. Don't do that. Once you've accepted a

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 03:13:57PM -0600, Noel Jones wrote: > > If you want to investigate setting up amavisd-new as a pre-queue filter, > general instructions are here: > http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_PROXY_README.html > More specific instructions can likely be found in the archives of the > amav

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Noel Jones
Chris Turan wrote: Noel Jones wrote: You need to configure postfix to reject unknown recipients during SMTP. Switching to something other than amavisd-new and/or switching to a before-queue filter won't help that. Hey Noel. I actually am rejecting unknown recipients. I wrote some software

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Chris Turan
Terry Carmen wrote: To eliminate *sending* backscatter, all you need to do is not accept mail you won't be able to deliver: I am rejecting unknown recipients but the bounces are coming from messages with a spamassassin score above 12. Unfortunately, there's still no such thing as a "free lun

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Chris Turan
Noel Jones wrote: You need to configure postfix to reject unknown recipients during SMTP. Switching to something other than amavisd-new and/or switching to a before-queue filter won't help that. Hey Noel. I actually am rejecting unknown recipients. I wrote some software to refresh the reci

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Terry Carmen
Chris Turan wrote: Hey All, I'm having an issue with backscatter emails and implementing a before-queue spam and virus scanner. My current mail server uses a after-queue amavisd-new scanner with spamassassin and clamav. In the last two weeks, my system has started *sending* a significant nu

Re: Stopping backscatter with before-queue

2008-12-08 Thread Noel Jones
Chris Turan wrote: Hey All, I'm having an issue with backscatter emails and implementing a before-queue spam and virus scanner. My current mail server uses a after-queue amavisd-new scanner with spamassassin and clamav. In the last two weeks, my system has started *sending* a significant nu