Re: Incoming bandwidth saturation due to many concurrent connections

2014-01-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Viktor Dukhovni: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 03:58:45PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > Otherwise, you can set the Postfix tcp_windowsize to a non-zero > > value to slow down email. I have used a value as low as 512 to keep > > a low-speed backup connection usable. For this a simple "postfix > >

Re: Incoming bandwidth saturation due to many concurrent connections

2014-01-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Wietse Venema wrote: > [thundering herd problem] > > When the sender exceeds the smtpd_client_connection_count_limit, > > they will get a 4xx deferral. When they retry delivery is out of > > your control -- some may retry in a few minutes, other hours, a few > > never (although not retrying is non-

Re: Incoming bandwidth saturation due to many concurrent connections

2014-01-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Periodically a large wave of email from the mailing lists will be > > unleashed. Such as when upstream connectivity is down for a while > > causing a backlog and then it is restored causing a transfer of the Probably due to high load on the server th

Re: Incoming bandwidth saturation due to many concurrent connections

2014-01-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 03:58:45PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > Otherwise, you can set the Postfix tcp_windowsize to a non-zero > value to slow down email. I have used a value as low as 512 to keep > a low-speed backup connection usable. For this a simple "postfix > reload" is not sufficient. Fo

Re: Incoming bandwidth saturation due to many concurrent connections

2014-01-28 Thread Wietse Venema
[thundering herd problem] > The bigger problem is that one or two connections from a > well-connected client will still overwhelm your bandwidth. The real > solution is traffic shaping or QoS to limit the bandwidth used by > SMTP. Your firewall software or your router may already have this > featu

Re: Incoming bandwidth saturation due to many concurrent connections

2014-01-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:53:41PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Periodically a large wave of email from the mailing lists will be > unleashed. Such as when upstream connectivity is down for a while > causing a backlog and then it is restored causing a transfer of the > backlog. Then the upstream E

Re: Incoming bandwidth saturation due to many concurrent connections

2014-01-28 Thread Noel Jones
On 1/28/2014 1:53 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Looking for advice... > > I have a Postfix mail server on a relatively slow 1.5Mbit/s dedicated > link. (It used to be relatively fast. Now it is relatively slow.) > It receives a lot of mailing list email from a well connected mailing > list server runn

Incoming bandwidth saturation due to many concurrent connections

2014-01-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Looking for advice... I have a Postfix mail server on a relatively slow 1.5Mbit/s dedicated link. (It used to be relatively fast. Now it is relatively slow.) It receives a lot of mailing list email from a well connected mailing list server running Exim. Periodically a large wave of email from t