Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 03:36:19PM -0400, Pat wrote: > ICANN did not really consider the security and portability of IDNs > before permitting them. The reasons for this are many, and speak > poorly to ICANN's management structure. It is important to remember > that ICANN's action does not mean t

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread LuKreme
On 27-May-2010, at 13:36, Pat wrote: > > we are not interested in > experimental code and do not want to use a version of bind or postfix that > cannot > be compiled to refuse IDNs. If you refuse properly delegated IDNs then you are broken, pure and simple. This is WHY punycode exists, as it re

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Pat
>> Wietse, thanks...but in Postfix I have to work with the ?o?o.com.ar >> domain name or with the xn--oo-yjab.gov.ar punycode domain name ??? > > The MAIL CLIENT must tranform non-ASCII domain names before > sending MAIL FROM or RCPT TO commands. ICANN did not really consider the security and port

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote: >> So, I think the IDN domain name support is not complete nowadays, >> neither by mail servers nor by mail clients. So it's not convenient >> the IDN mail implementation in this bad situation. >> >> What do you think about this matter

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:01:41PM -0300, Alejandro Cabrera Obed wrote: > OK, this is in case of my Thunderbird Debian lenn package, but what > about the Gmail syntax error warning ??? In Hotmail is the same, it > tells me that the recipient address just must have 1-9, a-z and @ > charactersin

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Per Jessen
responded: 5.1.3 Bad recipient address syntax" (THIS IS A > SERVER RESPONSE) > > - The Gmail webmail says: "One o more mail address in "To:" box is not > recognized" (THIS IS A CLIENT RESPONSE) > > So, I think the IDN domain name support is not com

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Alejandro Cabrera Obed
bug, [1] > > The server is just complaining about bad CLIENT syntax. > > [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127399 > >> - The Gmail webmail says: "One o more mail address in "To:" box is not >> recognized" (THIS IS A CLIENT RESPONSE) >> >> So, I

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Brian Evans - Postfix List
"One o more mail address in "To:" box is not > recognized" (THIS IS A CLIENT RESPONSE) > > So, I think the IDN domain name support is not complete nowadays, > neither by mail servers nor by mail clients. So it's not convenient > the IDN mail implementation

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Alejandro Cabrera Obed
SERVER RESPONSE) - The Gmail webmail says: "One o more mail address in "To:" box is not recognized" (THIS IS A CLIENT RESPONSE) So, I think the IDN domain name support is not complete nowadays, neither by mail servers nor by mail clients. So it's not convenient the IDN mail imp

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Wietse Venema
Alejandro Cabrera Obed: > Wietse, thanks...but in Postfix I have to work with the ?o?o.com.ar > domain name or with the xn--oo-yjab.gov.ar punycode domain name ??? Read carefully. The MAIL CLIENT must tranform non-ASCII domain names before sending MAIL FROM or RCPT TO commands. Wietse

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 05:53:17PM -0300, Alejandro Cabrera Obed wrote: > Wietse, thanks...but in Postfix I have to work with the ??o??o.com.ar > domain name or with the xn--oo-yjab.gov.ar punycode domain name ??? The latter. > For example, in my mail server I define my virtual domains in > /etc

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Alejandro Cabrera Obed
Wietse, thanks...but in Postfix I have to work with the ñoño.com.ar domain name or with the xn--oo-yjab.gov.ar punycode domain name ??? For example, in my mail server I define my virtual domains in /etc/postfix/vmaildomains. How di I have to define it: ñoño.com.ar required or xn--oo-yjab.go

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Wietse Venema
Alejandro Cabrera Obed: > Dear all, I live in Argentina and now we can use the ? letter in our > domain names. I have a mail system conformed with Debian Lenny / > Postfix 2.5.5-1.1. > > My question is this: > > Does Postfix 2.5.5-1.1 support IDN domain names in case I create a > @?o?o.com.ar dom

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Alejandro Cabrera Obed
Thanks Viktor, sorry but I don't understand this: you say Postfix works with ASCII on-the-wire, so if in my Postfix I create a virtual domain called "ñandu.gov.ar" you tell me that Postfix will automatically encoded it to Punycode and resulting the domain: xn--andu-fqa.gov.ar So I can cre

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 03:11:41PM -0300, Alejandro Cabrera Obed wrote: > Dear all, I live in Argentina and now we can use the ?? letter in our > domain names. I have a mail system conformed with Debian Lenny / > Postfix 2.5.5-1.1. > > My question is this: > > Does Postfix 2.5.5-1.1 support IDN

IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Alejandro Cabrera Obed
Dear all, I live in Argentina and now we can use the Ñ letter in our domain names. I have a mail system conformed with Debian Lenny / Postfix 2.5.5-1.1. My question is this: Does Postfix 2.5.5-1.1 support IDN domain names in case I create a @ñoño.com.ar domain ??? Or is it a problem inherent only