Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-12 Thread Wietse Venema
Ralf Hildebrandt: > * Thomas Bolioli : > > > This is an interesting. You are saying run amavisd as an MTA in > > between postfix and the sending MTA to reject the spammy/virus > > messages inbound and then send off to postfix everything else for > > delivery. What happens to non deliverables? They

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-12 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Thomas Bolioli : > This is an interesting. You are saying run amavisd as an MTA in > between postfix and the sending MTA to reject the spammy/virus > messages inbound and then send off to postfix everything else for > delivery. What happens to non deliverables? They will make it through > the fi

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-11 Thread Thomas Bolioli
Noel Jones wrote: On 12/11/2009 12:53 PM, Thomas Bolioli wrote: This is an interesting. You are saying run amavisd as an MTA in between postfix and the sending MTA to reject the spammy/virus messages inbound and then send off to postfix everything else for delivery. What happens to non deliver

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-11 Thread Noel Jones
On 12/11/2009 12:53 PM, Thomas Bolioli wrote: This is an interesting. You are saying run amavisd as an MTA in between postfix and the sending MTA to reject the spammy/virus messages inbound and then send off to postfix everything else for delivery. What happens to non deliverables? They will make

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-11 Thread Thomas Bolioli
This is an interesting. You are saying run amavisd as an MTA in between postfix and the sending MTA to reject the spammy/virus messages inbound and then send off to postfix everything else for delivery. What happens to non deliverables? They will make it through the first transaction. Or does a

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-11 Thread Thomas Bolioli
Our recipient users are not keeping up with their obligations in this scheme and instead are blaming us. We are trying to both remove reliance on the user and put the onus on the sender to fix their issues as most of the email getting bounced is poorly configured MTAs on the sender side. (We d

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-11 Thread Thomas Bolioli
Aside from anything else, it will really annoy the senders if the mail is legitimate. What annoys them even more is their message looking like it got through and it ended up in the junk folder or dropped to dev null. Terry Carmen wrote: http://forum.qmailrocks.org/archive/index.php/t-1623.

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-11 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Marty Anstey : > I don't think you can pass messages directly to spamc/spamd in a > before-queue scenario. Yes, that's because it doesn't speak SMTP -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdam

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-11 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Thomas Bolioli : > http://forum.qmailrocks.org/archive/index.php/t-1623.html The document describes rejection of unknown recipients. The document is misnomed, since no bouncing takes place but a simple rejection. > I found the above link when looking for a how to for configuring > postfix to bo

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-10 Thread Thomas Harold
On 12/10/2009 8:09 PM, Marty Anstey wrote: Rejecting messages inline is a far better solution than generating a bounce or simply dropping the message. Most, if not all spam has a forged sender so generating a bounce is a very bad idea. Rejecting inline is much better than dropping message; at le

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-10 Thread Marty Anstey
>> http://forum.qmailrocks.org/archive/index.php/t-1623.html >> >> I found the above link when looking for a how to for configuring postfix >> to bounce email BEFORE the initial MTA transaction is complete. I can't >> seem to find one for postfix. I want a sending MTAs to get a 550 error >> if spa

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-10 Thread Terry Carmen
> http://forum.qmailrocks.org/archive/index.php/t-1623.html > > I found the above link when looking for a how to for configuring postfix > to bounce email BEFORE the initial MTA transaction is complete. I can't > seem to find one for postfix. I want a sending MTAs to get a 550 error > if spamc/spa

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-10 Thread Marty Anstey
> http://forum.qmailrocks.org/archive/index.php/t-1623.html > > I found the above link when looking for a how to for configuring > postfix to bounce email BEFORE the initial MTA transaction is > complete. I can't seem to find one for postfix. I want a sending MTAs > to get a 550 error if spamc/spa

Re: Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-10 Thread Seth Mattinen
Thomas Bolioli wrote: http://forum.qmailrocks.org/archive/index.php/t-1623.html I found the above link when looking for a how to for configuring postfix to bounce email BEFORE the initial MTA transaction is complete. I can't seem to find one for postfix. I want a sending MTAs to get a 550 erro

Bounce at SMTPD level

2009-12-10 Thread Thomas Bolioli
http://forum.qmailrocks.org/archive/index.php/t-1623.html I found the above link when looking for a how to for configuring postfix to bounce email BEFORE the initial MTA transaction is complete. I can't seem to find one for postfix. I want a sending MTAs to get a 550 error if spamc/spamd deter