Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
On September 29, 2014 12:00:04 PM Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: Currently I'm using smtp_fallback_relay but I don't want Address verification probes to take that particular path. How can I disable smtp_fallback_relay for the address verification probes? Add it to verify service in master.cf as a o

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Noel Jones
On 9/29/2014 9:28 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: > Noel Jones: >>> By default, Postfix sends address verification probe messages via the >>> same route as regular mail, >> >> Yes, but it also says: >> >> Probe messages are like normal mail, except that they are never >> delivered, deferred or bounced >>

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Wietse Venema
Ralf Hildebrandt: > > The difference is that probes are never delivered (SMTP interruptus), > > and that failed probes are never returned to the mail queue. There > > is no reason to keep failed probes in the mail queue (and it would > > be unwise). > > You mean they would clutter the queue? Mas

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Wietse Venema : > Robert Schetterer: > > Am 29.09.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Noel Jones: > > > Is smtp_fallback_relay even used with a verification probe? I would > > > expect the probe to fail before it tries the fallback. > > > > hm... > > > > http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.htm

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Noel Jones
On 9/29/2014 9:06 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: > Robert Schetterer: >> Am 29.09.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Noel Jones: >>> Is smtp_fallback_relay even used with a verification probe? I would >>> expect the probe to fail before it tries the fallback. >> >> hm... >> >> http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICAT

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Wietse Venema
Noel Jones: > > By default, Postfix sends address verification probe messages via the > > same route as regular mail, > > Yes, but it also says: > > Probe messages are like normal mail, except that they are never > delivered, deferred or bounced > - and - > Postfix assumes that an address is und

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Wietse Venema
Robert Schetterer: > Am 29.09.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Noel Jones: > > Is smtp_fallback_relay even used with a verification probe? I would > > expect the probe to fail before it tries the fallback. > > hm... > > http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.html > > By default, Postfix sends a

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 29.09.2014 um 16:04 schrieb Ralf Hildebrandt: >> Yes, but it also says: >> >> Probe messages are like normal mail, except that they are never >> delivered, deferred or bounced > > Wait what? > >> - and - >> Postfix assumes that an address is undeliverable when the nearest >> MTA for the addre

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 29.09.2014 um 15:53 schrieb Noel Jones: > On 9/29/2014 7:40 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: >> Am 29.09.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Noel Jones: >>> On 9/29/2014 6:18 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt: > * Viktor Dukhovni : >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:00:04PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
> Yes, but it also says: > > Probe messages are like normal mail, except that they are never > delivered, deferred or bounced Wait what? > - and - > Postfix assumes that an address is undeliverable when the nearest > MTA for the address rejects the probe, regardless of the reason for > rejectio

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Noel Jones
On 9/29/2014 7:40 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: > Am 29.09.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Noel Jones: >> On 9/29/2014 6:18 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: >>> Ralf Hildebrandt: * Viktor Dukhovni : > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:00:04PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > >> Currently I'm using smtp_fall

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 29.09.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Noel Jones: > On 9/29/2014 6:18 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: >> Ralf Hildebrandt: >>> * Viktor Dukhovni : On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:00:04PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > Currently I'm using smtp_fallback_relay but I don't want Address > verification

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Noel Jones
On 9/29/2014 6:18 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: > Ralf Hildebrandt: >> * Viktor Dukhovni : >>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:00:04PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: >>> Currently I'm using smtp_fallback_relay but I don't want Address verification probes to take that particular path. How

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Wietse Venema
Ralf Hildebrandt: > * Viktor Dukhovni : > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:00:04PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > > > > > Currently I'm using smtp_fallback_relay but I don't want Address > > > verification probes to take that particular path. > > > > > > How can I disable smtp_fallback_relay for th

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Viktor Dukhovni : > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:00:04PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > > > Currently I'm using smtp_fallback_relay but I don't want Address > > verification probes to take that particular path. > > > > How can I disable smtp_fallback_relay for the address verification > > probe

Re: Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:00:04PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > Currently I'm using smtp_fallback_relay but I don't want Address > verification probes to take that particular path. > > How can I disable smtp_fallback_relay for the address verification > probes? Specify a different verificati

Address verification probes & smtp_fallback_relay

2014-09-29 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
Currently I'm using smtp_fallback_relay but I don't want Address verification probes to take that particular path. How can I disable smtp_fallback_relay for the address verification probes? -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesell