[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-03-02 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 08:58:07AM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > tls_high_cipherlist=ALL:!RSA:!CAMELLIA:!aNULL:!eNULL:!LOW:!3DES:!MD5:!EXP:!PSK:!SRP:!DSS:!RC4:!SHA1:!SHA256:!SHA384; > > > > Not recommended. It disables all non-AEAD ciphers, and aNULL ciphers, > > which are fine to use.

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-03-01 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users wrote in : |On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 12:26:33AM +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: | |> i still use the |> |> # super modern, forward secrecy TLSv1.2 / TLSv1.3 selection.. |> tls_high_cipherlist = EECDH+AESGCM:EECDH+AES256:EDH+AESGCM:CHACHA20 | |I don't re

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-03-01 Thread Alexander Leidinger via Postfix-users
Am 2024-02-29 13:46, schrieb Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users: On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 06:36:09AM -0500, Scott Hollenbeck wrote: > What do you consider weak? All of the anonymous Diffie-Hellman suites with an "F" score. How can eliminate the following: Who's assigning the "F" scores? Nma

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-29 Thread Alexander Leidinger via Postfix-users
Am 2024-02-29 10:27, schrieb Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users: On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 08:59:44AM +0100, Alexander Leidinger via Postfix-users wrote: # grep tls main.cf | grep -vE '^#' smtp_tls_security_level = encrypt smtpd_tls_ask_ccert = yes smtpd_tls_CApath = $smtp_tls_CApath Not gen

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-29 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 12:26:33AM +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > i still use the > > # super modern, forward secrecy TLSv1.2 / TLSv1.3 selection.. > tls_high_cipherlist = EECDH+AESGCM:EECDH+AES256:EDH+AESGCM:CHACHA20 I don't recommend cargo-culting random cipher lists. > smtpd_tls_mand

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-29 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
postfix-users@postfix.org wrote in : |On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 06:36:09AM -0500, Scott Hollenbeck wrote: | |> Sorry, context is important. This server needs to pass a Payment Card |> Industry (PCI) compliance scan. Their definition of weak: "key lengths of |> less than 112 bits, or else use th

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-29 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 06:36:09AM -0500, Scott Hollenbeck wrote: > Sorry, context is important. This server needs to pass a Payment Card > Industry (PCI) compliance scan. Their definition of weak: "key lengths of > less than 112 bits, or else use the 3DES encryption suite". Opportunistic > TLS is

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-29 Thread Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users
> -Original Message- > From: Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 8:46 PM > To: postfix-users@postfix.org > Subject: [pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak > Ciphers > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-29 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 08:59:44AM +0100, Alexander Leidinger via Postfix-users wrote: > # grep tls main.cf | grep -vE '^#' > smtp_tls_security_level = encrypt > smtpd_tls_ask_ccert = yes > smtpd_tls_CApath = $smtp_tls_CApath Not generally applicable. > smtp_tls_mandatory_protocols = !SSLv2 ,

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-29 Thread Alexander Leidinger via Postfix-users
Am 2024-02-28 14:55, schrieb Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users: Would someone please describe the configuration settings needed to support TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with no weak ciphers? Here's what I currently have in my That depends on your definition of "weak". configuration files: main.cf: smtp

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 08:55:04AM -0500, Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users wrote: > Would someone please describe the configuration settings needed to support > TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with no weak ciphers? Here's what I currently have in my > configuration files: This is not the right question. Some

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-28 Thread Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users
> -Original Message- > From: Wietse Venema via Postfix-users > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 3:11 PM > To: Postfix users > Subject: [pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak > Ciphers > > Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users: > >

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-28 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users: > Right, but that page says "You are strongly encouraged not to change this > setting". I'm also unsure why I'm not seeing any TLS 1.3 ciphers when > "smtpd_tls_protocols = >=TLSv1.2". Doesn't that setting include TLS 1.3? tls_high_cipherlist and tls_medium_cip

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-28 Thread Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users
- > From: Wietse Venema via Postfix-users > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 2:38 PM > To: Postfix users > Subject: [pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak > Ciphers > > Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users: > > Thanks, here's the outp

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-28 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
h_cipherlist https://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#tls_medium_cipherlist Wietse > > Scott > > > -Original Message- > > From: Wietse Venema via Postfix-users > > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 2:18 PM > > To: Postfix users > > Subject: [p

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-28 Thread Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users
users > Subject: [pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak > Ciphers > > Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users: > > Sorry, I should note that this is for postfix 3.6.4. > > > > postconf -H | grep -E 'high|medium' > > Wie

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-28 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users: > Sorry, I should note that this is for postfix 3.6.4. > postconf -H | grep -E 'high|medium' Wietse > > > -Original Message- > > From: Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users > > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 8:55 AM > > To: postfix-users@pos

[pfx] Re: Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers

2024-02-28 Thread Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users
Sorry, I should note that this is for postfix 3.6.4. Scott > -Original Message- > From: Scott Hollenbeck via Postfix-users > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 8:55 AM > To: postfix-users@postfix.org > Subject: [pfx] Configuration Settings for TLS 1.2 and 1.3 with No Weak Ciphers > > Wo