Re: Suggestion: make compilation fail if m4 is not installed

2018-02-26 Thread Wietse Venema
Folks, if you build Postfix from source code, then it needs UNIX tools including a compiler and various scripting languages. Such a configuration is fundamentally in conflict with the idea of running a minimal system. I have added a check for a missing 'm4' command, but I do not expect to enumera

Re: Suggestion: make compilation fail if m4 is not installed

2018-02-26 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 02/25/2018 09:52 PM, @lbutlr wrote: Really? What runs services automatically? The last time I setup freeeBSD 11.1 (last month) it wasn't even running sshd until I specifically enabled it. There are other distributions of POSIX-compliant operating systems. (Let's forego the religious war ab

Re: Suggestion: make compilation fail if m4 is not installed

2018-02-26 Thread Bill Cole
On 26 Feb 2018, at 0:52, @lbutlr wrote: Really? What runs services automatically? The whole RedHat family, even Fedora Core through last month. SLES & openSUSE at least through 11.1. Whatever the current stable Ubuntu was about a year ago. The last time I setup freeeBSD 11.1 (last month) i

Re: Suggestion: make compilation fail if m4 is not installed

2018-02-26 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 02/25/2018 07:17 PM, Bill Cole wrote: The package that don't matter are just taking a little bit of space, and it is hardly worth building a system by hand to save a tiny amount (percentage-wise) of space. But storage footprint is re-emerging as an issue with the rise of "cloud" systems li