Re: OT yahoo

2016-03-13 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <612d47d4-9465-4031-9d48-e6a0c3a8a...@dukhovni.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > > > On Mar 13, 2016, at 5:42 PM, Curtis Villamizar > > wrote: > > > > The NS RR are typically delivered in a fixed order, the order in the > > zone file, and while perhaps neither NS RR is properly a primar

Re: OT yahoo

2016-03-13 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Mar 13, 2016, at 5:42 PM, Curtis Villamizar > wrote: > > The NS RR are typically delivered in a fixed order, the order in the > zone file, and while perhaps neither NS RR is properly a primary in > the sense that MX has preference, lots of code uses the first NS > first, then tries the sec

Re: OT yahoo

2016-03-13 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <3qnxhn426dzj...@spike.porcupine.org> Wietse Venema writes: > > Curtis Villamizar: > > Are you saying they only looked at the primary NS record? Maybe I > > misread a prior post but I thought you meant primary MX record. The > > former, if true, would be even more broken. > > There

[OT] OS heritage (was: Re: source code for MacOSX tools)

2016-03-13 Thread Curtis Villamizar
OT - therefore my first and only post on this. In message Jim Reid writes: > > > On 13 Mar 2016, at 15:06, Robert Chalmers wrote: > > > > Nice hardware, but the software is really recycled FreeBSD. say what? > > The MacOSX kernel is based on Mach, not BSD, though that Mach kernel > presents

Re: OT yahoo

2016-03-13 Thread Wietse Venema
Curtis Villamizar: > Are you saying they only looked at the primary NS record? Maybe I > misread a prior post but I thought you meant primary MX record. The > former, if true, would be even more broken. There are no primary/secondary NS records; what matters are the NS records for his domain the

source code for MacOSX tools

2016-03-13 Thread Jim Reid
> On 13 Mar 2016, at 15:06, Robert Chalmers wrote: > > Nice hardware, but the software is really recycled FreeBSD. say what? The MacOSX kernel is based on Mach, not BSD, though that Mach kernel presents a largely BSD-flavour/POSIX API to user mode applications. It might be fairer to say FreeB

working around System Integrity Protection on MacOSX

2016-03-13 Thread Jim Reid
> On 13 Mar 2016, at 14:07, Larry Stone wrote: > > The only “pain” likely to result is if you aren’t smart and let malware do > something bad. OS X (at least so far) does not care if SIP is on or off. SIP, > IMHO, is protection for those who don’t know what they are doing but is in > the way

Re: Is /usr/bin/mail a link to sendmail/postfix

2016-03-13 Thread Robert Wolfe
Could you now just make a soft link to the files on /etc/old-postfix? On 03/13/2016 01:58 AM, rob...@chalmers.com.au wrote: Let me explain what's happening, or what happened. I rebuilt Postfix, to install in /user/local/etc/postfix and set the command to be in /user/local/sbin and so on, and i

Re: OT yahoo

2016-03-13 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message "@lbutlr" writes: > On Fri Mar 11 2016 12:21:07 Noel Jones said: > >=20 > > This problem (postscreen delays legit mail server) is nicely solved > > by using a dns whitelist such as dnswl.org to bypass postscreen > > tests for known mail servers... not necessarily "known good"

Re: Is /usr/bin/mail a link to sendmail/postfix

2016-03-13 Thread Robert Chalmers
Interesting idea Wietse. I’ll look into it. > On 13 Mar 2016, at 14:53, Wietse Venema wrote: > > rob...@chalmers.com.au: >> It's the only thing that fails. I move old-postfix back to >> etc/postfix, and of course it works again. I need 'mail' to work, >> because it is used by crown if nothing

Re: Is /usr/bin/mail a link to sendmail/postfix

2016-03-13 Thread Robert Chalmers
I’d forgotten about strings - getting old. That fixed the problem. I moved /etc/postfix to /etc/x-postfix linked -s /usr/local/sbin/sendmail to /usr/sbin/sendmail did echo date | mail rob...@chalmers.com and it works. I disabled SIP as soon as I installed the upgrade ages ago. and I confess

Re: Is /usr/bin/mail a link to sendmail/postfix

2016-03-13 Thread Wietse Venema
rob...@chalmers.com.au: > It's the only thing that fails. I move old-postfix back to > etc/postfix, and of course it works again. I need 'mail' to work, > because it is used by crown if nothing else... > > So that's what made me wonder if it's related to postfix in some > way, as it seems to need

Re: Is /usr/bin/mail a link to sendmail/postfix

2016-03-13 Thread Larry Stone
> On Mar 13, 2016, at 5:07 AM, Jim Reid wrote: > > >> On 13 Mar 2016, at 08:41, Alice Wonder wrote: >> >> It's possible the mail command on OS X is using the OS X sendmail command >> provided by the OS X postfix which would want its configuration file at >> /etc/postfix/main.cf > > It is.

Re: Is /usr/bin/mail a link to sendmail/postfix

2016-03-13 Thread Jim Reid
> On 13 Mar 2016, at 08:41, Alice Wonder wrote: > > It's possible the mail command on OS X is using the OS X sendmail command > provided by the OS X postfix which would want its configuration file at > /etc/postfix/main.cf It is. Though MacOSX puts the sendmail front-end in /usr/sbin:

Re: Is /usr/bin/mail a link to sendmail/postfix

2016-03-13 Thread Alice Wonder
On 03/12/2016 11:58 PM, rob...@chalmers.com.au wrote: Let me explain what's happening, or what happened. I rebuilt Postfix, to install in /user/local/etc/postfix and set the command to be in /user/local/sbin and so on, and it all works fine, as it should. The reason I moved it, is because each