Re: TLSA and .mil dns servers

2015-12-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 03:15:25PM +, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > I've had some luck getting .gov domains to fix the issue, for > example, loc.gov (and around 15 associated domains) and fbi.gov > used to not work, but now do. > > Yes, indeed the .mil MX host nameservers are configured with > mis

Re: Let's Encrypt certificates for port 25 SMTP and DANE TLSA

2015-12-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Dec 14, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: > > On 12/14/2015 11:23 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: >> May I ask for your help in providing configuration guidance to LE >> users who also plan to publish DANE TLSA records. > > I'd be happy to help, but am a little constrained on time.

DISCUSSION CLOSED (hosts without mx record)

2015-12-14 Thread Wietse Venema
sb: > Therefore, if you divide outbound from inbound, please add your > MX record to the DNS of your outbound subsystem. This is no longer about Postfix, and no longer belongs on this list. Please take this discussion elsewhere, or be removed. Wietse

Re: reject connections from hosts without mx record

2015-12-14 Thread sb
This is the reply to a person who wanted to stay anonymous. I am posting the reply here, with his name bleached, because it may help similar readers. On 12/14/15 4:42 PM, R.H. (privat) wrote: >http://marc.info/?l=postfix-users&m=144978027304340&w=2 >> Run a "proper" e-mail server, that is,

Re: Let's Encrypt certificates for port 25 SMTP and DANE TLSA

2015-12-14 Thread Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
On 12/14/2015 11:23 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > May I ask for your help in providing configuration guidance to LE > users who also plan to publish DANE TLSA records. I'd be happy to help, but am a little constrained on time. If you've got time, would you mind posting a quick explanation at https:

Re: postfix and multiple TLS certificates (SNI support?)

2015-12-14 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 13 Dec 2015, Alice Wonder wrote: A big negative to Thunderbird autoconfig - it looks for http before https resulting in MITM vulnerability. They say it is because hosting companies like godaddy don't want to have a TLS cert for every e-mail domain. I agree with both :-) They should

Re: Let's Encrypt certificates for port 25 SMTP and DANE TLSA

2015-12-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 04:23:16PM -0800, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: > On 12/04/2015 11:54 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > Can anyone using LE automated rotation check whether the key stays the > > same or not? > > It is up to the user. The official client will generate new keys for > each issua

Re: postfix and multiple TLS certificates (SNI support?)

2015-12-14 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > Quanah Gibson-Mount: > > --On Monday, December 14, 2015 12:07 PM -0500 Wietse Venema > > wrote: > > > > > Viktor Dukhovni: > > >> So, we've managed to hold off on offering SNI support for a decade > > >> since TLS was integrated into Postfix 2.2. I just wanted to see > > >> whe

Re: postfix and multiple TLS certificates (SNI support?)

2015-12-14 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Monday, December 14, 2015 6:03 PM + Viktor Dukhovni wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 09:36:33AM -0800, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: Given nginx's complete disregard for RFC's (*) and unwillingness to examine or fix issues related to the email proxy portion of their product (IMAP, POP, S

Re: postfix and multiple TLS certificates (SNI support?)

2015-12-14 Thread Wietse Venema
Quanah Gibson-Mount: > --On Monday, December 14, 2015 12:07 PM -0500 Wietse Venema > wrote: > > > Viktor Dukhovni: > >> So, we've managed to hold off on offering SNI support for a decade > >> since TLS was integrated into Postfix 2.2. I just wanted to see > >> whether anyone still wanted it in

Re: postfix and multiple TLS certificates (SNI support?)

2015-12-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 09:36:33AM -0800, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: > Given nginx's complete disregard for RFC's (*) and unwillingness to examine > or fix issues related to the email proxy portion of their product (IMAP, > POP, SMTP), I'd definitely avoid it. I.e., I would not recommend nginx as

Re: postfix and multiple TLS certificates (SNI support?)

2015-12-14 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Monday, December 14, 2015 12:07 PM -0500 Wietse Venema wrote: Viktor Dukhovni: So, we've managed to hold off on offering SNI support for a decade since TLS was integrated into Postfix 2.2. I just wanted to see whether anyone still wanted it in Postfix, but perhaps if they really did the

Re: recipient limits

2015-12-14 Thread Wietse Venema
Chris Boylan: > > > You mean smtpd_recipient_limit? With 10 valid addresses, it is > > unlikely but still possible to get mail with more recipients, when > > address extensions are in use (the same user effectively has an > > unlimited number of email addresses). This limits the number of RECIPIE

Re: postfix and multiple TLS certificates (SNI support?)

2015-12-14 Thread Wietse Venema
Viktor Dukhovni: > So, we've managed to hold off on offering SNI support for a decade > since TLS was integrated into Postfix 2.2. I just wanted to see > whether anyone still wanted it in Postfix, but perhaps if they > really did they've moved on to other solutions. Would haproxy/nginx be an opti

RE: recipient limits

2015-12-14 Thread Chris Boylan
> You mean smtpd_recipient_limit? With 10 valid addresses, it is > unlikely but still possible to get mail with more recipients, when > address extensions are in use (the same user effectively has an > unlimited number of email addresses). I was thinking about the reverse situation - preventing s

Re: recipient limits

2015-12-14 Thread Wietse Venema
Chris Boylan: > We're going to do a mailing to our customers this week (2000+) and I'm trying > to make sure our configuration, which is new, is set up appropriately. > > The email is coming from outlook as a list of lists apparently so it'll show > up on the submission port as a large Bcc list.

Re: postfix and multiple TLS certificates (SNI support?)

2015-12-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 06:37:59AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > Thanks for the moral support. I agree that SNI is not particularly > > compelling for port 25. The strongest arguments for SNI that > > I've seen are for port 587 submission, where there's no MX indirection, > > users' MUAs have

recipient limits

2015-12-14 Thread Chris Boylan
We're going to do a mailing to our customers this week (2000+) and I'm trying to make sure our configuration, which is new, is set up appropriately. The email is coming from outlook as a list of lists apparently so it'll show up on the submission port as a large Bcc list. Looks like I want to tem

Re: Local delivery and relaying

2015-12-14 Thread Wietse Venema
Jan Ceuleers: > On 14/12/15 12:43, Wietse Venema wrote: > > Jan Ceuleers: > >> Hi > >> > >> I'm a new Postfix user, having just switched from sendmail (which I set > >> up years ago and then forgot how). > >> > >> I want my Postfix server to locally deliver emails for my own accounts > >> and those

Re: Local delivery and relaying

2015-12-14 Thread Jan Ceuleers
On 14/12/15 12:43, Wietse Venema wrote: > Jan Ceuleers: >> Hi >> >> I'm a new Postfix user, having just switched from sendmail (which I set >> up years ago and then forgot how). >> >> I want my Postfix server to locally deliver emails for my own accounts >> and those of my housemates, but relay all

Re: Local delivery and relaying

2015-12-14 Thread Wietse Venema
Jan Ceuleers: > Hi > > I'm a new Postfix user, having just switched from sendmail (which I set > up years ago and then forgot how). > > I want my Postfix server to locally deliver emails for my own accounts > and those of my housemates, but relay all others. So for example: See "Delivering some

Re: postfix and multiple TLS certificates (SNI support?)

2015-12-14 Thread Wietse Venema
Viktor Dukhovni: > Thanks for the moral support. I agree that SNI is not particularly > compelling for port 25. The more strongest arguments for SNI that > I've seen are for port 587 submission, where there's no MX indirection, > users' MUAs have statically configured SMTP servers. And those cli