Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:49:49PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Is the latency you describe caused by disk IOPS or Postfix queue > processing behavior, or ?? I'd assume most folks using a 2nd instance > for fallback relay duty have the fallback instance queue on the same > physical disks, so I a

Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/8/2012 8:43 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:01:13AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > >> When sending lots of mails (mass mailings) via many machines, one >> quickly realizes that the current concept of smtp_fallback_relay is >> a bit problematic: > > If one thinks har

Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 08.09.2012 20:28, schrieb Wietse Venema: > Robert Schetterer: >>> Nobody said that the fallback relay has to another machine. You >>> can and should in many cases configure a second Postfix instance >>> on each machine to be the fallback relay, this solves the greylisting >>> by IP problem, and

Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Wietse Venema
Robert Schetterer: > > Nobody said that the fallback relay has to another machine. You > > can and should in many cases configure a second Postfix instance > > on each machine to be the fallback relay, this solves the greylisting > > by IP problem, and keeps the fallback load distributed to all the

Re: postfix version 2.10-20120902 relay issue

2012-09-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.09.2012 19:43, schrieb Naval saini: > wietse > This is the tcpdump output file i am sending u please find the attachment there is NO attachment upload large files to whatever service and post links and please get rid of your top-posting signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signat

Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 08.09.2012 15:43, schrieb Viktor Dukhovni: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:01:13AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > >> When sending lots of mails (mass mailings) via many machines, one >> quickly realizes that the current concept of smtp_fallback_relay is >> a bit problematic: > > If one thinks h

Re: postfix version 2.10-20120902 relay issue

2012-09-08 Thread Naval saini
wietse This is the tcpdump output file i am sending u please find the attachment. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Wietse Venema [via Postfix] < ml-node+s1071664n50405...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > Naval saini: > > *this the output of dump file tcpdump -s 0 -w file.cap port 25* > > tcpdump: WARNING:

Re: best email marketing software

2012-09-08 Thread Stefan Foerster
* achal : > "Robert" thanks for your suggestion maybe you are pointing towards > "mailchimp" and "constant contact" I will try them. +1 for mailchimp, FWIW

Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Viktor Dukhovni : > Nobody said that the fallback relay has to another machine. You > can and should in many cases configure a second Postfix instance > on each machine to be the fallback relay, this solves the greylisting > by IP problem, and keeps the fallback load distributed to all the > ava

Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:01:13AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > When sending lots of mails (mass mailings) via many machines, one > quickly realizes that the current concept of smtp_fallback_relay is > a bit problematic: If one thinks harder, one realizes the purpose of the mechanism is to mo

Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Ralf Hildebrandt : > I'll check the use of the smtp_fallback_relay for different mailing > campaigns. machine epsilon: Mails sent directly to MX: == 56423 (93.7%) Mails sent to fallback_relay: = 3735 (6.2%) Bounces: 83 machine k

Re: best email marketing software

2012-09-08 Thread achal
"Robert" thanks for your suggestion maybe you are pointing towards "mailchimp" and "constant contact" I will try them. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Robert Schetterer [via Postfix] < ml-node+s1071664n50401...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > Am 08.09.2012 15:08, schrieb achal: > > Which paid service wou

Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 08.09.2012 15:11, schrieb Ralf Hildebrandt: > * Wietse Venema : > >> I suppose you have lots of logfile information. Does the evidence >> support the idea that delaying smtp_fallback_relay would improve >> the delivery life cycle? > > I'll check the use of the smtp_fallback_relay for differen

Re: best email marketing software

2012-09-08 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 08.09.2012 15:08, schrieb achal: > Which paid service would you suggest best for email marketing? mostly theses are companies ( not directly software ), giving you complete service some of them ,not only helping you deliver out that mails via their mailserver infrastructure, also have i.e clie

Re: postfix version 2.10-20120902 relay issue

2012-09-08 Thread Wietse Venema
Naval saini: > *this the output of dump file tcpdump -s 0 -w file.cap port 25* > tcpdump: WARNING: arptype 65535 not supported by libpcap - falling back to > cooked socket > tcpdump: listening on venet0, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked), capture > size 65535 bytes I asked for the OUTPUTFILE CONT

Re: postfix version 2.10-20120902 relay issue

2012-09-08 Thread Naval saini
*this the output of dump file tcpdump -s 0 -w file.cap port 25* tcpdump: WARNING: arptype 65535 not supported by libpcap - falling back to cooked socket tcpdump: listening on venet0, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked), capture size 65535 bytes 260 packets captured 261 packets received by filter 0 p

Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Wietse Venema : > I suppose you have lots of logfile information. Does the evidence > support the idea that delaying smtp_fallback_relay would improve > the delivery life cycle? I'll check the use of the smtp_fallback_relay for different mailing campaigns. -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbere

Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Wietse Venema
Ralf Hildebrandt: > When sending lots of mails (mass mailings) via many machines, one > quickly realizes that the current concept of smtp_fallback_relay is > a bit problematic: > > * The mass mailing gets (randomly) distributed to n machines > * these n machines try sending out the mails assigned

Re: best email marketing software

2012-09-08 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 08.09.2012 12:48, schrieb achal: > I have a linux smtp server with postfix installed on it.I want an email > marketing software on another linux server like interspire, but because > interspire is very expensive so i would like a suggestion as is there any > other opensource or less expensive em

Re: Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 08.09.2012 10:01, schrieb Ralf Hildebrandt: > When sending lots of mails (mass mailings) via many machines, one > quickly realizes that the current concept of smtp_fallback_relay is > a bit problematic: > > * The mass mailing gets (randomly) distributed to n machines > * these n machines try se

Re: postfix version 2.10-20120902 relay issue

2012-09-08 Thread Wietse Venema
Naval saini: > Sep 8 13:09:47 r22 postfix/smtpd[3170]: connect from unknown[unknown] > Sep 8 13:09:47 r22 postfix/smtpd[3170]: disconnect from unknown[unknown] > Sep 8 13:09:53 r22 postfix/smtpd[3170]: warning: haproxy read: timeout error > Sep 8 13:09:53 r22 postfix/smtpd[3170]: connect from u

Re: best email marketing software

2012-09-08 Thread achal
You are right php list is nice can it be used in a centos VPS? On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Duane Hill-4 [via Postfix] < ml-node+s1071664n50392...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > On Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 11:20:49 UTC, [hidden > email]confab

Re: best email marketing software

2012-09-08 Thread Duane Hill
On Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 11:20:49 UTC, achal.toma...@gmail.com confabulated: > Yup you are right mailman is not an option have you seen interspire > software sir? Have you checked out phpList: http://www.phplist.com/ > On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt < > ralf.hildebr

Re: best email marketing software

2012-09-08 Thread achal tomar
Yup you are right mailman is not an option have you seen interspire software sir? On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt < ralf.hildebra...@charite.de> wrote: > * achal : > > I am not a spammer i have 7 smtp servers to accomplish this task the > email > > database is legitimate and appr

Re: best email marketing software

2012-09-08 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* achal : > I am not a spammer i have 7 smtp servers to accomplish this task the email > database is legitimate and approved i am not in any mood of getting my ips > blacklisted by spamming.40 emails is just an example it only says that > the email marketing software must be able to process a l

Re: best email marketing software

2012-09-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.09.2012 12:48, schrieb achal: > I have a linux smtp server with postfix installed on it.I want an email > marketing software on another linux server like interspire, but because > interspire is very expensive so i would like a suggestion as is there any > other opensource or less expensive

best email marketing software

2012-09-08 Thread achal
I have a linux smtp server with postfix installed on it.I want an email marketing software on another linux server like interspire, but because interspire is very expensive so i would like a suggestion as is there any other opensource or less expensive email marketing software available which would

Re: postfix version 2.10-20120902 relay issue

2012-09-08 Thread Naval saini
*As you told now i have turned off postscreen and using * smtpd_upstream_proxy_protocol = haproxy smtpd_upstream_proxy_timeout = 5s in my /etc/postfix/main.cf file * and in /etc/postfix/master.cf* smtpinetn - n - - smtpd -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes * and m

Alternative smtp_fallback_relay mechanism

2012-09-08 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
When sending lots of mails (mass mailings) via many machines, one quickly realizes that the current concept of smtp_fallback_relay is a bit problematic: * The mass mailing gets (randomly) distributed to n machines * these n machines try sending out the mails assigned to them and will encounter m