Re: What became of nullmx? (draft-delany-nullmx-00)

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Ori Bani: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Viktor Dukhovni > wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:11:57AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > > > >> I recently saw Exim reject/not deliver mail based on this old, expired > >> draft: > >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-delany-nullmx-00 > >> > >>

Fwd: postfix-gld: mxgrey not working?

2012-06-20 Thread Loïc
Hi list, Sorry again for being out-of-subject. Since I posted to this ML in last resort (as GLD seems to be mainly related to Postfix), I thought that a few readers using it but not having the clues to answer my question (since I got no answer) could still be interested. Other users, feel free to

Re: What became of nullmx? (draft-delany-nullmx-00)

2012-06-20 Thread Ori Bani
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:11:57AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > >> I recently saw Exim reject/not deliver mail based on this old, expired draft: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-delany-nullmx-00 >> >> What ever became of that one? >

Re: OT: Spanish technical terms

2012-06-20 Thread Victoriano Giralt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On 21/6/12 0:59, Noel Jones wrote: > Anybody know a reliable online resource for English/Spanish > technical terms? The Spanglish mailing list (spangl...@uma.es)[1] is dedicated to English/Spanish technical translations and it has many knowledgea

OT: Spanish technical terms

2012-06-20 Thread Noel Jones
[Off Topic] A teacher/colleague of mine is hoping to travel to South America to teach some technical courses (VMware and Cisco). His Spanish is good (he says; I'm not qualified to judge), but he is having trouble finding the proper Spanish technical terms. Anybody know a reliable online resource

Re: Help relaying local postfix through Exchange

2012-06-20 Thread Noel Jones
On 6/20/2012 4:27 PM, Matt Van Mater wrote: > However, it strikes me as strange that developers went through the > trouble of automatically configuring "smtpd_use_tls = yes" for > client/servers that support STARTTLS, when that setting has little Be assured that postfix does *not* set "smtpd_use_

Re: Help relaying local postfix through Exchange

2012-06-20 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 05:27:24PM -0400, Matt Van Mater wrote: > However, it strikes me as strange that developers went through the > trouble of automatically configuring "smtpd_use_tls = yes" for > client/servers that support STARTTLS, when that setting has little > value if the smtp_tls_securit

Re: Help relaying local postfix through Exchange

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Matt Van Mater: > However, it strikes me as strange that developers went through the > trouble of automatically configuring "smtpd_use_tls = yes" for > client/servers that support STARTTLS, when that setting has little This is false. As documented the Postfix SMTP server does not by default accep

Re: Help relaying local postfix through Exchange

2012-06-20 Thread Matt Van Mater
>> However, my main point of confusion was surrounding the use of >> "smtp_tls_security_level", where I believe the documentation says the >> default for this setting is 'none'. > > As documented in TLS_README and other places, the default is "no > TLS" for both server and client, and I do not expe

Re: Help relaying local postfix through Exchange

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Matt Van Mater: > However, my main point of confusion was surrounding the use of > "smtp_tls_security_level", where I believe the documentation says the > default for this setting is 'none'. As documented in TLS_README and other places, the default is "no TLS" for both server and client, and I do

Re: Help relaying local postfix through Exchange

2012-06-20 Thread Matt Van Mater
> Correction: > > "smtpd_use_tls = yes" turns on TLS when the remote SMTP client > sends the STARTTLS command. > > This the recommended configuration for MX hosts that also > must be able to receive plaintext mail. That makes sense since I did not explicitly set the smtpd_use_tls setting, somethin

Re: Help relaying local postfix through Exchange

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > Matt Van Mater: > > My interpretation is that setting smtpd_use_tls = yes only "allows" you to > > use TLS, but you need to have smtp_tls_security_level set to something > > OTHER than none to actually work over an encrypted channel. Perhaps I am > > Nope, that is false. > > As

Re: Help relaying local postfix through Exchange

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Matt Van Mater: > My interpretation is that setting smtpd_use_tls = yes only "allows" you to > use TLS, but you need to have smtp_tls_security_level set to something > OTHER than none to actually work over an encrypted channel. Perhaps I am Nope, that is false. As documented, "smtpd_use_tls = ye

Re: Help relaying local postfix through Exchange

2012-06-20 Thread Matt Van Mater
Hi all, Don't you love it when you can struggle with something for 2 days, 'give up' and post to a mailing list only to look like a fool and solve the problem a few minutes later? Yeah, that's me. But for posterity/mailing list's sake: In addition to the info below, all I had to do was add `smtp

Re: Incorrect authentication data message

2012-06-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-06-20 16:00, Nicolás skrev: Surprisingly on the server side (mail.domain.es) there's no log activity. check syslog is not eathing it Any ideas of why is this happening? see recipient logs, or senders logs, depending of the problem with syslogs

Re: Incorrect authentication data message

2012-06-20 Thread Nicolás
El 20/06/2012 17:12, Dennis Guhl escribió: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 03:00:44PM +0100, Nicolás wrote: Hi there! [..] The whole postconf -n command on the client, nagios.domain.es: config_directory = /etc/postfix relayhost = [domain.es] Is it intentional that you turned MX lookups off? See htt

Re: Incorrect authentication data message

2012-06-20 Thread Dennis Guhl
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 03:00:44PM +0100, Nicolás wrote: > Hi there! [..] > The whole postconf -n command on the client, nagios.domain.es: > > config_directory = /etc/postfix > relayhost = [domain.es] Is it intentional that you turned MX lookups off? See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#r

Re: What became of nullmx? (draft-delany-nullmx-00)

2012-06-20 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:11:57AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > I recently saw Exim reject/not deliver mail based on this old, expired draft: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-delany-nullmx-00 > > What ever became of that one? It never became a standard, but it is "practiced" informally. I

Re: incorrect mailer-daemon

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Wael MANAI: > Yes I know that. Look this is the mailer-daemon sent by postfix (bold > line at the end of the message). In the notification only "552 > Requested ..." must appear, why 250-PIPELINING too? By the multiline rule of RFC 5321: 1) The EHLO reply is: 250 whatever 2) The MAIL FROM r

Re: How to handle local mail when throttling?

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Adrian Gibanel : > So I understand: > > transport: > --- > > hotmail.com hotmailratelimit: > yahoo.com yahooratelimit: > my.domain.com localratelimit: You don't need an entry for my.domain.com. With my.domain.com in mydestination, it will be delivered with the "local" transport. T

Re: regulate mail flow by domain

2012-06-20 Thread Mark Goodge
On 20/06/2012 16:13, François Yuul wrote: Hello, I use Postfix as a relay SMTP to send bulk mail (newsletter). And I would like to regulate them according to the domain name of the recipient. For example, if I have to send 100 emails to domainA and 100 mails to domainB I would like Postfix regula

Re: regulate mail flow by domain

2012-06-20 Thread Adrian Gibanel
Hi, If you can manage to rewrite your problem on: "Number of messages sent per hour" or better even "The messages sent to the same domain have to be send each X seconds" you might be interested in my: How to handle local mail when throttling? thread: http://marc.info/?l=postfix-users&m=13395

regulate mail flow by domain

2012-06-20 Thread François Yuul
Hello,   I use Postfix as a relay SMTP to send bulk mail (newsletter).   And I would like to regulate them according to the domain name of the recipient.   For example, if I have to send 100 emails to domainA and 100 mails to domainB   I would like Postfix regulate those mails by sending in a first

Re: How to handle local mail when throttling?

2012-06-20 Thread Adrian Gibanel
So I understand: transport: --- hotmail.com hotmailratelimit: yahoo.com yahooratelimit: my.domain.com localratelimit: main.cf: -- # ... hotmailratelimit_destination_rate_delay = 15s yahooratelimit_destination_rate_delay = 15s localratelimit_destination_rate_delay = 0s

Re: incorrect mailer-daemon

2012-06-20 Thread Wael MANAI
Yes I know that. Look this is the mailer-daemon sent by postfix (bold line at the end of the message). In the notification only "552 Requested ..." must appear, why 250-PIPELINING too? "Received: by relay.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9E06D8E87A; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:33:58 +0200 (CEST)

Re: Bcc field not transmitted to applicative layer

2012-06-20 Thread Larry Stone
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012, Wael MANAI wrote: I read the thread but I don't understand if it's possible to have Bcc parameter in the header of the message. You do understand that the B in BCC means BLIND, right? It wouldn't be very blind if the BCC information were included in the message data. Th

Re: What became of nullmx? (draft-delany-nullmx-00)

2012-06-20 Thread Rod Dorman
On Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 05:11:57, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > I recently saw Exim reject/not deliver mail based on this old, expired draft: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-delany-nullmx-00 > > What ever became of that one? I think it died from lack of momentum and people were worried about M

Re: incorrect mailer-daemon

2012-06-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.06.2012 16:10, schrieb Wietse Venema: > Wael MANAI: >> What do you mean "security software"? It's postfix which adds >> 250-PIPELINING... > > You are mistaken. > > The "security" software sends > > 250 whatever > 250-PIPELINING > 552 whatever > > The 250-PIPELINING is NOT P

Re: incorrect mailer-daemon

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Wael MANAI: > What do you mean "security software"? It's postfix which adds > 250-PIPELINING... You are mistaken. The "security" software sends 250 whatever 250-PIPELINING 552 whatever The 250-PIPELINING is NOT PART OF THE EHLO RESPONSE. In RFC 5321, section "4.2.1. Reply Code Sev

Re: Bcc field not transmitted to applicative layer

2012-06-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.06.2012 15:57, schrieb Wael MANAI: > I read the thread but I don't understand if it's possible to have Bcc > parameter in the header of the message. no because BCC is never in the headers this would break BCC per definition what BCC is signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signatu

Re: incorrect mailer-daemon

2012-06-20 Thread Wael MANAI
What do you mean "security software"? It's postfix which adds 250-PIPELINING... Here is postfconf -n output: alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases alternate_config_directories = /etc/postfix_out always_add_missing_headers = no append_at_myorigin = no append_dot_mydomain = no best_mx_transport = d

Incorrect authentication data message

2012-06-20 Thread Nicolás
Hi there! I'm having some trouble configuring one postfix as a client to send mails through my mail server. So I have 2 servers, one of them running as the postfix server with virtual users using MySQL (everything ok there), let's call it mail.domain.es and another one, let's call it nagios.d

Re: Bcc field not transmitted to applicative layer

2012-06-20 Thread Wael MANAI
I read the thread but I don't understand if it's possible to have Bcc parameter in the header of the message. Here is an extract of the message sent (wireshark tcp stream): 220 relay.com ESMTP Postfix (2.8.7) EHLO origin.gprs 250-relay.com 250-PIPELINING 250-SIZE 1024 250-VRFY 250-ETRN 250-ENH

Re: How to handle local mail when throttling?

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Adrian Gibanel : > > > 5) Create transport_regexp file like: > > > > > > /@hotmail.com$/ hotmailratelimit: > > > /@yahoo.com$/ yahooratelimit: > > > !/@my.domain.com$/ slowratelimit: > > > Don't use regular expressions for this. Hash-based transport maps > > already match the domain portion of the

Re: incorrect mailer-daemon

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Wael MANAI: > Hi, > > Here is my problem. I try to send one message which is refused by remote > mailer (at MAIL FROM Level) with error: > > 552 Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation > > wireshark tcp stream: > > 220 81.52.180.21 ESMTP > EHLO relay.com > 250 81.52.180.21[

Re: incorrect mailer-daemon

2012-06-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.06.2012 15:28, schrieb Wael MANAI: > where 250-PIPELINING concerns EHLO command. > Why for an error on MAIL FROM, postfix adds EHLO reply? nobody knows because you do not submit logs nor output of postconf -n so nobody is able to guess what is happening on a foreign machine signature.as

Re: How to handle local mail when throttling?

2012-06-20 Thread Adrian Gibanel
- Mensaje original - > De: "Wietse Venema" > Para: "Postfix users" > Enviados: Miércoles, 20 de Junio 2012 15:15:24 > Asunto: Re: How to handle local mail when throttling? > Adrian Gibanel : > > 5) Create transport_regexp file like: > > > > /@hotmail.com$/ hotmailratelimit: > > /@yahoo

incorrect mailer-daemon

2012-06-20 Thread Wael MANAI
Hi, Here is my problem. I try to send one message which is refused by remote mailer (at MAIL FROM Level) with error: 552 Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation wireshark tcp stream: 220 81.52.180.21 ESMTP EHLO relay.com 250 81.52.180.21[relay.com] Please to meet you 250-P

Re: Bcc field not transmitted to applicative layer

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Wael MANAI: > Hi, > > I use Postfix in MMS sending/receiving and some MMS can contain Bcc > parameter. I have configured Postfix to send all the messages to an > external program (using pipe mechanism) which treat the MMS. The problem > is when the MMS sent has one or more Bcc, Postfix delete them

Re: How to handle local mail when throttling?

2012-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Adrian Gibanel : > 5) Create transport_regexp file like: > > /@hotmail.com$/ hotmailratelimit: > /@yahoo.com$/ yahooratelimit: > !/@my.domain.com$/ slowratelimit: Don't use regular expressions for this. Hash-based transport maps already match the domain portion of the email address. http://w

Bcc field not transmitted to applicative layer

2012-06-20 Thread Wael MANAI
Hi, I use Postfix in MMS sending/receiving and some MMS can contain Bcc parameter. I have configured Postfix to send all the messages to an external program (using pipe mechanism) which treat the MMS. The problem is when the MMS sent has one or more Bcc, Postfix delete them (pipe output data do no

Re: turn off mailer daemon returns

2012-06-20 Thread Wael MANAI
Hi, Just to thank everybody, now I received all the mailer-daemon and I can control the messages sent. Le mardi 12 juin 2012 à 12:38 -0500, Noel Jones a écrit : > On 6/12/2012 11:47 AM, Wael MANAI wrote: > > with internal_mail_filter_classes and header_checks I can redirect > > the message to my

Re: How to handle local mail when throttling?

2012-06-20 Thread Adrian Gibanel
Ok. I think I've managed to do it with this IDEA 1. Basically what I have done is: 1) Remove: default_destination_rate_delay = 15s from main.cf 2) Add: slowratelimit_destination_rate_relay = 15s to main.cf 3) Replace: transport_maps = regexp:/etc/postfix/transport_regexp in main.cf 4) Remove

Policyd server closing

2012-06-20 Thread Naval saini
I am configuring policyd for my mail server .i have configured policyd server as follows my /etc/policyd/cluebringer.conf file... # Server configuration # [server] # Protocols to load protocols=< AccessControl: enabled [2012/06/20-14:57:43 - 7256] [CORE] NOTICE: => CheckHelo: enabled [2012/0

What became of nullmx? (draft-delany-nullmx-00)

2012-06-20 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
I recently saw Exim reject/not deliver mail based on this old, expired draft: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-delany-nullmx-00 What ever became of that one? -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenb

Re: How to handle local mail when throttling?

2012-06-20 Thread Adrian Gibanel
IDEA 1 - - Remove the default_destination_rate_delay = 15s line. - Instead of adding: my.domain.com relayratelimit: to the /etc/postfix/transport file adding: REGEXP slowratelimit: where REGEXP is a regular expression that says: "Everything except whatever ends with @my.dom

Re: queue error

2012-06-20 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* kibirango moses : > Please find attached the Postfix configuration : > root@xxx-xx:/# postconf -n > alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases > alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases > command_directory = /usr/sbin > config_directory = /etc/postfix > content_filter = amavisfeed:[127.0.0.1]:10024

Re: queue error

2012-06-20 Thread Reindl Harald
please do not top-post after get a reply at the bottom - i am too lazy to fix the thread now > content_filter = amavisfeed:[127.0.0.1]:10024 you specify a content-filter on 127.0.0.1 > delivery temporarily suspended: conversation with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed > out i bet amavis hangs, postfi

Re: queue error

2012-06-20 Thread kibirango moses
Please find attached the Postfix configuration : root@xxx-xx:/# postconf -n alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases command_directory = /usr/sbin config_directory = /etc/postfix content_filter = amavisfeed:[127.0.0.1]:10024 daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/p

Re: queue error

2012-06-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.06.2012 09:42, schrieb kibirango moses: > Hullo Users, > I am using postfix Version 2.8.4 and i am getting the following error when > sending out mail > > delivery temporarily suspended: conversation with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed > out while sending end of data -- > message may be sen

queue error

2012-06-20 Thread kibirango moses
Hullo Users, I am using postfix Version 2.8.4 and i am getting the following error when sending out mail delivery temporarily suspended: conversation with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be sent more than once Any body with a solution to the error . Thanks