Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Li-Wen Hsu
On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 5:30 AM tech-lists wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 03:25:19PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >Hello everyone, > > > >We plan to remove the support for fetching packages over ftp for the next > >releases of pkg (probably 1.18) if you have a strong reason to use ftp wh

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 12:32 PM Li-Wen Hsu wrote: > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 5:30 AM tech-lists wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 03:25:19PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > >Hello everyone, > > > > > >We plan to remove the support for fetching packages over ftp for the > next > > >rele

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread tech-lists
On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 05:32:26PM +0800, Li-Wen Hsu wrote: If this is due to security considerations, I don't think a place disallowing ssh and https would allow plain ftp. Some places either might not have or might not allow egress. Some networks are closed at install time. An ftp server on

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Jose Quinteiro
On 1/23/22 08:47, tech-lists wrote: > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 05:32:26PM +0800, Li-Wen Hsu wrote: >> >> If this is due to security considerations, I don't think a place >> disallowing ssh and https would allow plain ftp. > > Some places either might not have or might not allow egress. > Some netwo

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread tech-lists
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 03:25:19PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Hello everyone, We plan to remove the support for fetching packages over ftp for the next releases of pkg (probably 1.18) if you have a strong reason to use ftp which cannot be fixed by switching to any other supported protocols

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread tech-lists
On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 08:55:09AM -0800, Jose Quinteiro wrote: You can run HTTP on a non-standard port. For example, 8080 is commonly used. As an added bonus, this means that the HTTP server need not run as root. Unless I'm mistaken, there is no web server in base. There is though, an ftp se

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Jose Quinteiro
On 1/23/22 09:06, tech-lists wrote: > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 08:55:09AM -0800, Jose Quinteiro wrote: > >> You can run HTTP on a non-standard port. For example, 8080 is commonly >> used. As an added bonus, this means that the HTTP server need not run as >> root. > > Unless I'm mistaken, there is

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi all, I did not really have an opinion on this, since we never used FTP, but I was a bit surprised by the suggestion to use SSH instead. It never occurred to us that anything but HTTP(S) was possible. We simply run Nginx in a jail serving the packages that Poudriere produces for us. Setup time/

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Stefan Esser
Am 23.01.22 um 18:12 schrieb Jose Quinteiro: > On 1/23/22 09:06, tech-lists wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 08:55:09AM -0800, Jose Quinteiro wrote: >> >>> You can run HTTP on a non-standard port. For example, 8080 is commonly >>> used. As an added bonus, this means that the HTTP server need not r

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 11:27 PM Stefan Esser wrote: > Am 23.01.22 um 18:12 schrieb Jose Quinteiro: > > On 1/23/22 09:06, tech-lists wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 08:55:09AM -0800, Jose Quinteiro wrote: > >> > >>> You can run HTTP on a non-standard port. For example, 8080 is commonly > >>>

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Stefan Esser
Am 23.01.22 um 22:41 schrieb Mehmet Erol Sanliturk:> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 11:27 PM Stefan Esser > wrote: > > Am 23.01.22 um 18:12 schrieb Jose Quinteiro: > > On 1/23/22 09:06, tech-lists wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 08:55:09AM -0800, Jose Quinteiro w

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Mark Millard
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote on Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 00:41:34 +0300 : > I checked all of the sources by downloading related compressed sources , > by reading all of the web pages in the shown website , I could not find > any license information . > > If it is possible for you , would you pleas

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:15 AM Mark Millard wrote: > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote on > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 00:41:34 +0300 : > > > I checked all of the sources by downloading related compressed sources , > > by reading all of the web pages in the shown website , I could not find > > any licen

Re: Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Jose Quinteiro
On 1/23/22 13:12, Helge Oldach wrote: > Stefan Esser wrote on Sun, 23 Jan 2022 21:08:30 +0100 (CET): >> Am 23.01.22 um 18:12 schrieb Jose Quinteiro: >>> On 1/23/22 09:06, tech-lists wrote: On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 08:55:09AM -0800, Jose Quinteiro wrote: > You can run HTTP on a non-stan

Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-23 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Sun, 23 Jan 2022 19:19:57 +0100): Am 22.01.2022 um 09:35 schrieb Chris : I find it's less "housekeeping" to use ftp(1) setup through inetd(8) for pkg repos, than via ssh. I understand the appeal of FTP. Maybe this discussion is focusing on the wrong topi