Re: FSF Pune Group [was:Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org]

2007-04-26 Thread Nishit Dave
On 4/27/07, Shantanoo Mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mailing list software can do that if it is able to understand the difference between forged and genuine email. Upto certain limit, one can find spam, but you can not fight it 100%. This is where digitally signed messages come into picture.

Re: FSF Pune Group [was:Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org]

2007-04-24 Thread Nishit Dave
+++ Nishit Dave [PLUG] [20-04-07 10:29 +0530]: | On 4/20/07, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | wrote: Hi, This is Shantanoo. I have put the 'Sender:' header in the mail. This is one of the reason why people need digitally signed messages :) Shantanoo hmm...interesting! Shouldn't

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-22 Thread Cosmic
On 4/21/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Cosmic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/19/07, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On 4/19/07, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > On 4/19/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Part I

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-22 Thread BVK
On 4/21/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes. Now at least we are on the same page that softwares are licensed and we are not using some car/hood etc examples. I believe, from *consumer* point of view, software is no different from hardware. They just give more fun or make his day-to-day li

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-21 Thread A G
--- BVK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/21/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2. You dont own vista is what the fsf says. > > Well, I also dont own ubuntu tht I am using > neither do > > I own FF with which I am replying. > > Sure, you don't own Ubuntu as a company and you > don't own F

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-20 Thread BVK
On 4/21/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2. You dont own vista is what the fsf says. Well, I also dont own ubuntu tht I am using neither do I own FF with which I am replying. Sure, you don't own Ubuntu as a company and you don't own FF as a trademark. Why do you think you don't own Ubuntu a

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-20 Thread A G
--- Cosmic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/19/07, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On 4/19/07, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > On 4/19/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Part II > > > > Of course, both Vista and Linux are

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-20 Thread Cosmic
On 4/19/07, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/19/07, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/19/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Part II Of course, both Vista and Linux are distributed under licenses, but there is a major difference between their terms. Vist

Re: FSF Pune Group [was:Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org]

2007-04-20 Thread Nishit Dave
+++ Nishit Dave [PLUG] [20-04-07 10:29 +0530]: | On 4/20/07, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | wrote: | > | >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | >-END PGP SIGNATURE- | > | > | As this is OT, I'll risk the question: what's the use of digitally signing | messages posted to a dis

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-20 Thread BVK
On 4/20/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I only hope that fsf does not do harm to OSS with SCOish arguments and claims. What arguments? what claims? Can you enlight us with any? Your comparision of FSF with SCO tells us a *lot* about your knowledge on these topics. FYI, all FSF owned soft

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-20 Thread BVK
On 4/19/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The content writer is idiot to say the least. Argue on the merits of Linux and not the bad things of others. That site is about VISTA and whats BAD in it. Not about Linux. These fsf guys have problem even w/ Linux kernel not being moved to V3. Do

Re: [OT] FSF Pune Group [was:Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org]

2007-04-19 Thread Nishit Dave
On 4/20/07, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- -END PGP SIGNATURE- As this is OT, I'll risk the question: what's the use of digitally signing messages posted to a discussion forum? Any comment would invalidate the original signature

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-19 Thread Nishit Dave
On 4/20/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: While I agree that the above points 'may' occure, it would be better if some hard examples are given. Else the credentials of the accuser gets a dent. This is a distinct possibility. Vista has been designed to *impinge* on your rights. Eg. MS talk

[OT] FSF Pune Group [was:Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org]

2007-04-19 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 manoj mahajan wrote: > Interesting site, please have a look > http://badvista.fsf.org On a completely different track, there's a FSF group in Pune now with a mailing list at http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-pune Siddharthya is the coordinato

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-19 Thread A G
--- Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/19/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > 1. Vista can block unauthorised code execution, > under the guise of virus > protection. This can mean that it will allow only > software authorised by > Microsoft or its honchos to run.

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-19 Thread Nishit Dave
On 4/19/07, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/19/07, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/19/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Part III GPL v3 has been necessitated to deal with businesses trying to get cute with GPL v2, viz. TiVo and Microsoft / Novell.

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-19 Thread Nishit Dave
On 4/19/07, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/19/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Part II Of course, both Vista and Linux are distributed under licenses, but there is a major difference between their terms. Vista EULAs very minutely specify what you can do with it, while

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-19 Thread Nishit Dave
On 4/19/07, A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. Vista can block unauthorised code execution, under the guise of virus protection. This can mean that it will allow only software authorised by Microsoft or its honchos to run. Therefore, if somebody decides that vlc circumvents content protec

Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-19 Thread A G
--- manoj mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting site, please have a look > http://badvista.fsf.org > > http://badvista.fsf.org/what-s-wrong-with-microsoft-windows-vista 1. DRM gives power to Microsoft and Big Media. * They decide which programs you can and can't use on your com

[PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org

2007-04-18 Thread manoj mahajan
Interesting site, please have a look http://badvista.fsf.org Thanks, -- Have a nice day! -- `` Manoj S. Mahajan MCSE 2003+Security+Messaging, MCSA 2003+Security+Messaging & RHCE M: 9423022370 `