Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-12-07 Thread Rage Callao
On 12/6/06, Andy Sy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What other reason would there be to write a piece of software? To spread a political idea? I'm afraid a piece of software written with that primary goal in mind is not likely to be very succesful. Case-in-point: There was an extremely annoying and

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-12-06 Thread Zak B. Elep
On 12/6/06, Andy Sy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A 'commie', however, would be someone who believes that the above is NOT ok solely out of "principle". And if you don't believe Stallman and Co. are of this mindset, you are either being deliberately dishonest or you fail to read their manifestos pr

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-12-06 Thread Rage Callao
On 12/5/06, Andy Sy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You definitely sound like someone who has been drinking the Richard Stallman Kool-Aid. I DO NOT choose a tool because of its license, I choose it because it is practical and fits my needs. Oh c'mon man, you can do better than that can you? I could

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-12-05 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 12/5/06, Andy Sy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rage Callao wrote: > Your reality is not my reality. Open source is not about the > appropriateness > of any particular tool but the freedom to use the tools. Check out > http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php You definitely sound like someo

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-08 Thread thad
China is going Linux all the way but it is behind the Great Firewall of China, meanwhile proprietary softwares are protected by international trade treaties like GATT, Apec, Nafta, Afta etc, thats why BSA is around. thadOn 8/8/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/7/06, Peter Santiag

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-08 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/7/06, Peter Santiago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rogelio Serrano wrote: > On 8/7/06, John Peter Loh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> On 8/7/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Independence is not about cutting ties with the US at all. Its showing >> > the capability to do w

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-07 Thread Rage Callao
On 8/7/06, Peter Santiago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This topic is going way off tangent. Whether the open source bill will be good or bad, I don't know (one has to check the bunch of legalese they will put in). For me, it's a question of whether or not use the appropriate tool for the job. It

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-06 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/7/06, John Peter Loh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/7/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Independence is not about cutting ties with the US at all. Its showing > the capability to do what we want to anybody. That doesn't sound right. First result from define:independence >

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-06 Thread John Peter Loh
On 8/7/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Independence is not about cutting ties with the US at all. Its showingthe capability to do what we want to anybody.That doesn't sound right.First result from define:independence freedom from control or influence of another or others  -- John Pe

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-06 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/6/06, Tata Dano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From Manila Standard. > > "1. The country can reduce reliance and spending on imports. Most > proprietary operating systems and business applications come from the > United States, and developing countries such as the Philippines end up > import

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-06 Thread Dean Michael Berris
On 8/6/06, Tata Dano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Its because we are tuta by this imperialist US...susunod sunod lang tayo sa gusto nila dahil hawak tayo economically and politically. Well, its just my personal opinion based on all the research and readings that i have. I dunno about this, but

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-06 Thread Tata Dano
>From Manila Standard."1. The country can reduce reliance and spending on imports. Most proprietary operating systems and business applications come from theUnited States, and developing countries such as the Philippines end upimporting millions of dollars worth of software licenses. On the other h

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-06 Thread Tata Dano
On 7/26/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/27/06, thad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Stallman is the no1 supporter of Chavez in US, just read read his blog. InWTF> fact he even endorse  to to fill in gas at Citgo, one of the biggest > distributor of gas here in US, owned by Venez

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-04 Thread Zak B. Elep
On 8/4/06, Kenneth P. Oncinian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry. I dont know how this happened, really. This is not the email that I replied to. Either my eyes played trick on me or I have found a zimbra bug. No, your previous message is very apt. Talk about this open source bill presupposes

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-03 Thread James Purser
On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 12:16 +0800, Rogelio Serrano wrote: > >From Manila Standard. > > "1. The country can reduce reliance and spending on imports. Most > proprietary operating systems and business applications come from the > United States, and developing countries such as the Philippines end up

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-03 Thread Kenneth P. Oncinian
- From: Kenneth P. Oncinian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Philippine Linux Users' Group Technical Discussion List Sent: Friday, August 4, 2006 1:08:55 PM GMT-0200 Subject: Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time alis ako ng 1:25 eksakto Kenneth P. Oncinian Information Syste

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-03 Thread Andre John Cruz
so what's anti-american in this statement? "1. The country can reduce reliance and spending on imports. Mostproprietary operating systems and business applications come from theUnited States, and developing countries such as the Philippines end up importing millions of dollars worth of software lic

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-03 Thread Kenneth P. Oncinian
4, 2006 12:16:14 PM GMT-0200 Subject: Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time On 8/4/06, Junix Gaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 7/27/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/27/06, thad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-03 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/4/06, Junix Gaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/27/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/27/06, thad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Stallman is the no1 supporter of Chavez in US, just read read his blog. In > > WTF ??? > > fact he even endorse to to fill in gas a

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-08-03 Thread Junix Gaspar
On 7/27/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/27/06, thad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Stallman is the no1 supporter of Chavez in US, just read read his blog. InWTF???  > fact he even endorse  to to fill in gas at Citgo, one of the biggest > distributor of gas here in US, owned by

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-07-27 Thread jan gestre
On 7/27/06, Dax Cordova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i think the bill is in the making already becase ive heard some company is helping that congressman already. hope it comes out soon enough some company? who are these company or companies? what are their line of business? vested interest? self ser

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-07-26 Thread Dax Cordova
i think the bill is in the making already becase ive heard some company is helping that congressman already. hope it comes out soon enough _ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List plug@lists.linux.org.ph (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Read the G

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-07-26 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 7/27/06, thad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stallman is the no1 supporter of Chavez in US, just read read his blog. In WTF fact he even endorse to to fill in gas at Citgo, one of the biggest distributor of gas here in US, owned by Venezuela which Chavez nationalized. Is it anti-american-

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-07-26 Thread thad
Stallman is the no1 supporter of Chavez in US, just read read his blog. In fact he even endorse  to to fill in gas at Citgo, one of the biggest distributor of gas here in US, owned by Venezuela which Chavez nationalized. Is it anti-american--- this is all but FUD. Look at Fortune top 500 companies

Re: [plug] Open source bill – it’s about time

2006-07-26 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 7/27/06, Jun Salen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are discussion regarding this topic from last few threads. There is already one congressman that may start to propose a first bill regarding OSS. Please read Manila Standard http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=business06_july25_2006 arti