Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2013-03-01 Thread Rage Callao
Deja vu Yup. Willing to help here. Email mo na lang ako kung ano kailangan mong tulong :) On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM, claive alvin Acedilla wrote: > Ramil, this is very good by DepEd because there are no translation efforts > in the Philippines. > In the Middle East, everything in English m

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2013-01-28 Thread Tata Dano
Its alive and kicking! _ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2013-01-15 Thread Jojo Maquiling
I believe i'm late to pitched in :D but JUST do it. You'll learn a lot a long the way :) Anyway though there has been lots of efforts before, I'm looking mainly on Bayanihan Linux and its very nice logo. I saw Kahel OS but I've never tried. Though I'm more bias now to Ubuntu Philippines effort on t

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-13 Thread claive alvin Acedilla
Ramil, this is very good by DepEd because there are no translation efforts in the Philippines. In the Middle East, everything in English must be translated to Arabic so that all of their countrymen can understand In other South East Asian countries and other Asian countries English is translated to

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-13 Thread Ramil Galib
localization efforts: Think of Mother Tongue-Based-Multilingual Education (MTB-MLE) program of DepEd. This is up to grade 3 in the elementary level. In my opinion, this is something we have to work on. On 12/6/12, Paolo Alexis Falcone wrote: > Doc, it's 1994 :) > > Paolo Alexis Falcone > Sent f

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-05 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
Doc, it's 1994 :) Paolo Alexis Falcone Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2012, at 21:33, Kelsey Hartigan Go wrote: > Speaking of which, does Eric remember when we started Plug? 1993? It'll be 20 > years next year. > > -- > Kelsey Hartigan Go > > On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Michael Janapin wrot

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Janapin
iscussion List < > plug@lists.linux.org.ph> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 15:17 > > *Subject:* Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino > > As someone already said, there should be a buy-in. Why build something > nobody would use? Or something that is already d

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Janapin
Now that would call for a celebration. :-) On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Kelsey Hartigan Go < kelsey.hartigan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Speaking of which, does Eric remember when we started Plug? 1993? It'll be > 20 years next year. > > -- > Kelsey Hartigan Go > > On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Mich

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Tinsay
15:17 Subject: Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino As someone already said, there should be a buy-in. Why build something nobody would use? Or something that is already done? On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:32 PM, claive alvin Acedilla wrote: Yes, most Filipinos can understand Filipino (mostly

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-05 Thread Anuerin Diaz
On Dec 5, 2012 3:48 PM, "Zak Elep" wrote: > > > I might touch some raw nerves when I say this: Filipino localization > of the Linux desktop is but a novelty. Ever saw a full Filipino > Windows install in action? I daresay, until you see a lot of them in > real use (and not in some curious resea

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-05 Thread Kelsey Hartigan Go
Speaking of which, does Eric remember when we started Plug? 1993? It'll be 20 years next year. -- Kelsey Hartigan Go On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Michael Janapin wrote: > Yep. Those were the days my friend. > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Paolo Falcone wrote: > Twelve years ago there w

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-05 Thread Xander Solis
Might want to look at Linux from Scratch to achieve your plans http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Michael Janapin wrote: > Yep. Those were the days my friend. > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Paolo Falcone wrote: > >> Twelve years ago there was no Ubuntu, and t

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Janapin
Yep. Those were the days my friend. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Paolo Falcone wrote: > Twelve years ago there was no Ubuntu, and the Debian-Tagalog project > was not yet in existence. I still recall the efforts of Eric Pareja, > Sacha Chua et.al. in doing the initial localization of the Deb

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread Zak Elep
What, a distro thread in PLUG? It isn't 2005 right? XD On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:21 PM, claive alvin Acedilla wrote: > Hello guys, > Can we start a project Linux desktop distro that is translated to Filipino? No; you don't need my (or anyone's) permission, just do it ;) You can call for help if

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread Ben Adrian Sarmiento
As someone already said, there should be a buy-in. Why build something nobody would use? Or something that is already done? On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:32 PM, claive alvin Acedilla < cabpacedi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, most Filipinos can understand Filipino (mostly Tagalog language) > because most

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread Paolo Falcone
Twelve years ago there was no Ubuntu, and the Debian-Tagalog project was not yet in existence. I still recall the efforts of Eric Pareja, Sacha Chua et.al. in doing the initial localization of the Debian installer, which eventually propagated to Ubuntu a few years after. Assembling a Linux distrib

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread Robert Locke
I strongly agree with Paolo, Lenny, Anuerin, etc. In fairness, though, I have lost a lot of the exuberance of my youth so more power to you if you decide to pursue it. At the very least, you'll learn a lot. =) On Dec 5, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Michael Janapin wrote: > This reminds me of a discu

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread Michael Janapin
This reminds me of a discussion here in PLUG about 12 years ago. :-) On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:00 PM, claive alvin Acedilla < cabpacedi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Everybody can join in every aspect of the project: building the distro, > coding, theme (art work), testing, and documentation. Maybe I ca

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread claive alvin Acedilla
Everybody can join in every aspect of the project: building the distro, coding, theme (art work), testing, and documentation. Maybe I can join manual system testing because I'm not technical and cannot code. Im sure many in PLUG are programmers. So who can start build the distro so we can start tes

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread Thad Mailist
What's up? From Houston Michael Janapin wrote: >_ >Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
d faster? >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android >> >> >> From: claive alvin Acedilla ; >> To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List >> ; >> Subject: Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino >> Sent: Tue

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread Jubert Ledesma
ino locale? isnt that a lot easier and faster? Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android *From: * claive alvin Acedilla ; *To: * Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List ; *Subject: * Re: [plug] Linux dis

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread John Homer H Alvero
It's alive! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Kelsey Hartigan Go wrote: > Didn't know it died. > > -- > Kelsey Hartigan Go > > On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Michael Janapin wrote: > >> PLUG is alive!!! >> >> Sent from HTC Wildfire >> >> _ >> Philip

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread Kelsey Hartigan Go
Didn't know it died. -- Kelsey Hartigan Go On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Michael Janapin wrote: > PLUG is alive!!! > > Sent from HTC Wildfire > > _ > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/pl

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread Michael Janapin
PLUG is alive!!! Sent from HTC Wildfire _ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-04 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
Why even start your own distro (with all the uncool stuff you don't want to do like QA, documentation, training, actual usability and performance testing and not just mere pontificating that x or y feature is bloat, software development and bug fixing, acquisition of machine resources and the li

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-03 Thread LeNnY CuTe
Like the other guy said " ubuntu and Debian" distri already supports filipino locale, so whats the point of trimming?? Why exert an effort in something that is alreAdy available? the filipino links that you stated can just be added to their current distri configured on a filipino locale?  isn

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-03 Thread claive alvin Acedilla
We can incorporate the Translation Tool by default so that users can access the Translation tool immediately On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:32 PM, claive alvin Acedilla < cabpacedi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, most Filipinos can understand Filipino (mostly Tagalog language) > because most TV shows in t

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-03 Thread claive alvin Acedilla
Yes, most Filipinos can understand Filipino (mostly Tagalog language) because most TV shows in the Philippines comes from Manila which is in Tagalog. So we can start with Tagalog. We will make moves and strategies in translation to make translation going like making tutorials how to translate, prov

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-03 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
There was an attempt years ago called Bayanihan Linux that was done by ASTI. Sadly it didn't take off, for many various reasons. To begin with, the Filipino language is an artificial language borne of a collectivist desire for a national language (like what the Malaysians have and what the Indo

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-03 Thread claive alvin Acedilla
I was thinking of Linux desktop that is targeted to the Filipino people. Like it has a Filipino feel and culture in it. Like the desktop is designed how Filipino use the computer and internet. Like the web browser has default links for: For Weather updates : http://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/ For Hea

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-03 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
You'd actually want the bloat of existing distributions and applications as what you call bloat is also making the desktop more functional and ready for more random hardware. Not everyone is keen to wasting time making things work when they have actual work to be done. Ubuntu and its parent Deb

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-03 Thread Anuerin Diaz
Why create a whole desktop distribution just for translation? Just participate in the translation as that would be a better use of manpower. I think KahelOS is still around so you can pitch in on that effort as well. ciao! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:21 PM, claive alvin Acedilla < cabpacedi...@gmai

Re: [plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-03 Thread jgotan...@gmail.com
Check https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/fil On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:21 PM, claive alvin Acedilla wrote: > Hello guys, > Can we start a project Linux desktop distro that is translated to Filipino? > We can start translating the desktop environment first then the default apps > later.

[plug] Linux distro in Filipino

2012-12-03 Thread claive alvin Acedilla
Hello guys, Can we start a project Linux desktop distro that is translated to Filipino? We can start translating the desktop environment first then the default apps later. We will use a light and stable distro. We will use apps that are lightweight. We can start with ubuntu and trim ubuntu to becom