Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-11 Thread Drexx Laggui [personal]
11May2008 (UTC +8) On 5/11/08, Michael Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > I will be at Token bar, Kalayaan Ave Makati, between P.Burgos and Makati Ave > having a beer at 6PM - 9PM min next Friday. No free wireless network there > that I know of, but they have cold beer and hot coffee and a c

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-10 Thread Michael Cole
On Sunday 11 May 2008 10:02:14 am Jan Alonzo wrote: > Organize a codefest or some workshop and invite/encourage people > (especially students) who are willing to learn and contribute to FOSS. And > oh, join Google SOC. Yeah when was the last Plug meeting. We have an inability to even get the grou

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-10 Thread Jerome Gotangco
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Michael Tinsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does one have to contribute code to be said to be a contributor to a FOSS > software? This has always been a misconception on a participatory cultured community like FOSS. A set of FOSS code like an API is not useful wit

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-10 Thread Zak B. Elep
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Jan Alonzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (1) How about having existing contributors mentor wannabe contributors? > Organize a codefest or some workshop and invite/encourage people (especially > students) who are willing to learn and contribute to FOSS. And oh, join

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-10 Thread Jan Alonzo
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Miguel Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know this is an old/cliche topic - but how can we get more Pinoys > writing open source so that we would be more of a net producer and not > just a consumer? (1) How about having existing contributors mentor wannabe

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-10 Thread Gerald Quimpo
On Sunday 11 May 2008 05:20:31 Michael Tinsay wrote: > Does one have to contribute code to be said to be a contributor to a FOSS > software? bug reports, documentation, time (e.g., website improvement), money :-) etc, are all contributions. tiger -- Gerald Timothy Quimpo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-10 Thread John Peter Loh
Submitting bugs also help. I contribute code every now and then. What usually holds me back is when I'm not really proud of my work to be released into the public (some of them has/are ugly hacks). On other occasions, I get too lazy or occupied to package and document code. --JP On Sun, May 11, 2

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-10 Thread Michael Tinsay
- Original Message > From: Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It shouldn't be that hard to contribute to FOSS. In my case, I do Does one have to contribute code to be said to be a contributor to a FOSS software? --- mike t. _ Ph

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-10 Thread Zak B. Elep
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Ambrosio Berdijo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "(I still have a day job, y'know :) I'm afraid IPTraf doesn't put food >> on my table, heh heh)." >> >> I wish I have the economic fre

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-09 Thread Jerome Gotangco
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Ambrosio Berdijo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "(I still have a day job, y'know :) I'm afraid IPTraf doesn't put food > on my table, heh heh)." > > I wish I have the economic freedom to write FOSS code, so difficult in the > Phils, > specially when raising a f

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-09 Thread Ambrosio Berdijo
wait a minute, what does Gurango have to do with FOSS & PLUG? There are better example of successful local people in FOSS... Probably the best Open Source portfolio would be Butch Landingin, now the CTO of Orange&Bronze. I remember some posts from him regarding Python, Zope and Squishdot and this

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-08 Thread thad
> > The rest did it in the US. > I thought Gurango's story was fully based in the Philippines, but I > found this story: > http://www.teamasia.com/Media/2002/pn10292002.htm > There is somebody in this list who is a developer for his company until he shifted to the dark side. ^

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-08 Thread Ariz Jacinto
maybe that's it. the local demand for software is pretty low compared to overseas'. and with regards to web apps, local consumers tend to embrace global brands and there's nothing new about it. i think success rate is much higher if you launch your product elsewhere or if you cater to OFWs worldwid

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio

2008-05-07 Thread Michael Cole
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The original topic "building the open source portfolio" was not to > help society... it was more of for building your own resume... hardly > an altruistic goal. > If you help yourself it is helping others since you are no

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-07 Thread Jagi Sarcilla
Hobby is hobby, interest is interest, we know we want to share "something big" when it comes to open source. but our situation here is diffirent from US or any rich country, that is why when you think something, you always give a room for becoming rich and that is true, im not againts that. and la

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-07 Thread Miguel Paraz
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Ariz Jacinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dado Banatao[1] - S3 Video > Caterina Fake[2] - Flickr / VC > Peter Valdes[3] - IBM/Tivoli > Winston Damarillo - IBM/Gluecode > Joey Gurango - MS Great Plains > Orlando Vea - PLDT/Smart Communications > ... > - Yup they a

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-07 Thread Ariz Jacinto
(denial mode) i still refuse to accept that fact even though it is likely and inevitable hehehe. i'll bookmark and reopen this thread once i really given up. oh well, maybe sometime next week hehehe. On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know Ariz, I re

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-06 Thread Ariz Jacinto
Dado Banatao[1] - S3 Video Caterina Fake[2] - Flickr / VC Peter Valdes[3] - IBM/Tivoli Winston Damarillo - IBM/Gluecode Joey Gurango - MS Great Plains Orlando Vea - PLDT/Smart Communications ... - i don't know them personally too but there's no doubt about their accomplishment :) [1] http://

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-06 Thread Miguel Paraz
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know Ariz, I really think it's an age thing. > > If you look at the guys who set up Facebook, Myspace, OpenDNS > they're all in their early- to mid-twenties. > > I guess once you hit 30+ and you still haven't st

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio

2008-05-06 Thread Orlando Andico
The original topic "building the open source portfolio" was not to help society... it was more of for building your own resume... hardly an altruistic goal. On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:29 AM, manny+phnix.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 7 May 2008, Orlando Andico wrote: > > > I hack boats.

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-06 Thread Orlando Andico
You know Ariz, I really think it's an age thing. If you look at the guys who set up Facebook, Myspace, OpenDNS they're all in their early- to mid-twenties. I guess once you hit 30+ and you still haven't struck it rich, you kind of settle down into a niche. Many of my colleagues are actually

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-06 Thread Xander Solis
Hi All, Usually open source projects have a "donate" section that allows people to send them money, beer, pizza, etc. I don't know if this would be applicable here in Manila :) Anyways i think most people do contribute code/do QA testing for distributions (ie. Fedora project), but do not advertis

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio

2008-05-06 Thread Rage Callao
manny+phnix.net wrote: > I'm not a programmer. I hack motorcycles. I used to hack cars. And before > that, I hacked my kiddie toys. > > But I sure wish I could contribute code to an open source project. But I > can't. So I promote open source by using it, making it work, and > encouraging other

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-06 Thread Ariz Jacinto
hehehe, that's hilarious. perhaps it would really end up like you've grown out of it or maybe by raising the bar, among other things. others would simply use their idle times creating their startup instead of immediately contributing code to F/OSS projects. Although they would still contribute to

[plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio

2008-05-06 Thread manny+phnix.net
On Wed, 7 May 2008, Orlando Andico wrote: > I hack boats. I hack camera lenses. I hack flashes to add > functionality to them. I hack cameras (well, i blew up my EOS 350D > from hacking it.. oh well) > > All of which are far more fun than contributing to an open-source project. I'm not a programm

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-06 Thread Orlando Andico
I don't know about you guys, but personally I gain zero geek pride from working on open-source projects. I used to have a couple of projects like a DECADE ago and back then I was brimming full of pride at bug reports and code fixes and mention on web sites but that is so loser-ish :-P Make

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-05 Thread Roger Filomeno
Only after 4 actively using Drupal (PHP CMS), this year im contributing back as a Google Summer of Code for Drupal. Basically because being here in PH -- contributing to FOSS is limited to amount of free time (less freelance :D) and if your job NDA permits it. On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Ariz

Re: [plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-05 Thread Ariz Jacinto
it's all about motivation. i'm pretty sure most of us, if not all, can contribute to the code of any open source project or even initiate one. some might have already fixed some bugs of any popular projects but are too shy(?) to submit the patch. others simply starts to loose motivation whenever th

[plug] Building the Open Source Portfolio (was Re: Help for Job Hunters)

2008-05-05 Thread Miguel Paraz
Brian posted this in linuxjobs, which got me thinking about his link #2 - On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Brian Baquiran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I've been interviewing a lot of applicants recently, > and I feel these two blog posts should be required > reading for everyone looking fo