Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Xander Solis
Just wanted to share. Smartmatic has marketing documents on their site about SAES 1800 (election machines) and RIES http://www.smartmatic.com/company/article/article/Media%20Kit%20for%20The%20Philippines/ Not really in-depth, technical information but the information is ok for starters.. On Wed,

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Brian Tan Seng
Hi All, This is an interesting topic indeed. Would anyone know if Election Markup Language (EML) version 5.0 will be used in next year's election? http://docs.oasis-open.org/election/eml/v5.0/cs01/EML-Schema-Descriptions-v5.0.html -- Brian Tan Seng Yahoo! Messenger ID: btanseng Registered Linux

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Xander Solis
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:19 PM, fooler mail wrote: > > it is a done deal now.. all we need to do is how to improve the > system.. please join the chat session as we need everybody's valuable > inputs... > > I agree on this. What we can do now is to weed out possibly the low hanging fruit and ob

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Michael Mondragon
Let us know when will the chat session be. Mike From: fooler mail To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:08:27 PM Subject: Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers On Wed, Jul

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread fooler mail
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:58 AM, jan gestre wrote: > The reason the Comelec is still using the old fashion way tallying the votes > is because that is the law unless they amend the law which I think they > can't given the time frame they have, granted because what the law said.. but sending all ER

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread fooler mail
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Kelsey Hartigan Go wrote: > I don't think cheating will be done on the technical level, as there > are going to be very few who can pull that off. it can be done.. what im thinking is that without protecting the private key.. they can produce their own fake ERs by

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread fooler mail
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Danny Ching wrote: > > I'm afraid however that cheating will simply be done locally by > sabotaging, destroying or simply invalidating the machines credibility > by destroying the seals of the voting machines before, during or after > the elections. Therefore forci

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread fooler mail
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Holden Hao wrote: > Top of mind suggestions: > > - Political parties should have technical representatives and each should be > given GPG keys.  After the source code review, they should all sign the code > and monitor the burning of the firmware. > > - The embedde

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread fooler mail
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Miguel Paraz wrote: > > Even if Smartmatic and friends were honest, what's to stop other third > parties now from breaking into these systems? > Or even easier, causing > a denial of service attack - and a failure of elections? let us ask them first their network

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread fooler mail
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Miguel Paraz wrote: > > This is probably a Java web (servlet) application. Since it is much > easier to cheat here, we need to make sure of the integrity of this > web app. But even if the app is good at the source level, how do we > know that it won't be substitut

Re: [plug] Command Line help, how to add a . on the start of each line?

2009-07-14 Thread eric pareja
hi david, the more "traditional" way would have been to use sed as follows: sed -i.bak s/^/./g porndomain.cal side-effect is to generate a backup file with the .bak extension. xen On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:14 PM, david t. asuncion, jr. wrote: > A total CLI newbie here. :) > > I have a file li

Re: [plug] Command Line help, how to add a . on the start of each line?

2009-07-14 Thread david t. asuncion, jr.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Zak B. Elep wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:14 PM, david t. asuncion, > jr. wrote: > > A total CLI newbie here. :) > > > > I have a file like this... > > > > cat porndomain.acl > > > > sex.com > > blahblah.com > > weak.com > > > > > > What I want to happ

Re: [plug] Command Line help, how to add a . on the start of each line?

2009-07-14 Thread Zak B. Elep
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:14 PM, david t. asuncion, jr. wrote: > A total CLI newbie here. :) > > I have a file like this... > > cat porndomain.acl > > sex.com > blahblah.com > weak.com > > > What I want to happen is to add a "." on each line to look like this... > > .sex.com > .blahblah.com >

[plug] Command Line help, how to add a . on the start of each line?

2009-07-14 Thread david t. asuncion, jr.
A total CLI newbie here. :) I have a file like this... cat porndomain.acl sex.com blahblah.com weak.com What I want to happen is to add a "." on each line to look like this... .sex.com .blahblah.com .weak.com How can I do that with one line of command in Linux? -- David Tacasa Asuncion

Re: [plug] Root Kit, Hardware failure or something else?

2009-07-14 Thread Miguel Paraz
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:03 AM, John Peter Loh wrote: > I tried it again with random filenames. 3 tests in 500 consecutive > copying of a 76578 byte file, averaged 50.7 failed. Is it possible > that this is caused by faulty memory too? you could memtest to rule out memory, mprime to rule out CPU

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Miguel Paraz
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Pablo Manalastas wrote: > > Let's schedule the chat session at a convenient time for most people in PLUG. > Which day/time do you suggest? Hi, If we could have it this weekend, we could have a F2F for the people in Metro Manila. __

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Rage Callao
2009/7/13 Pablo Manalastas : > We can suggest to Comelec to compute SHA1 or MD5 checksums of the approved > programs, and at election time, the checksums can be recomputed (manually) > and if the original checksum and new checksum agree, then there is no > substitution. AFAIR, SHA1 and MD5SUM

Re: [plug] Root Kit, Hardware failure or something else?

2009-07-14 Thread John Peter Loh
I tried it again with random filenames. 3 tests in 500 consecutive copying of a 76578 byte file, averaged 50.7 failed. Is it possible that this is caused by faulty memory too? Thanks Mike! -JP On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:04, Michael Tinsay wrote: > Possibly HD or controller failure even if S.M.A.

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread jan gestre
The reason the Comelec is still using the old fashion way tallying the votes is because that is the law unless they amend the law which I think they can't given the time frame they have, also you are right in saying that manipulation are done from the municipal level and so on. The cheating that is

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Ariz Jacinto
Silly me, I meant to write SHA-256 (I was reading the AES-attack article that time). Thanks for pointing that out! On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Pablo Manalastas wrote: > > My GPG 1.4.9 supports the following algorithms: > > Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA > Cipher: 3DES (S2), CAST5 (S

Re: [plug] using multiple gw

2009-07-14 Thread Kelsey Hartigan Go
I use ip route and it seems to work ok for me. To check you can use iptraf (written by a fellow filipino gerald java).. On 7/6/09, Alec Joseph Rivera wrote: > Winelfred G. Pasamba wrote: >> i'm been trying this "ip route add ... equalize..." thing. sometimes >> it works, sometimes it doesn't. >

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Kelsey Hartigan Go
I don't think cheating will be done on the technical level, as there are going to be very few who can pull that off. If there's any cheating to be done, it will be through ghost precincts and ghost votes. Therefore, someone needs to monitor the voter's count vs. Voter's list, monitor against stat

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Pablo Manalastas
Let's schedule the chat session at a convenient time for most people in PLUG. Which day/time do you suggest? //PManalastas --- On Tue, 7/14/09, fooler mail wrote: > From: fooler mail > Subject: Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers > To: "Philippine Linux Users' Group

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Danny Ching
My two cents worth. Considering the technical difficulties in cheating nationally. We might finally realize the dream of clean and fair elections on the national level. Specially with PLUG on the job. Ehem ehem (plugging PLUG) I'm afraid however that cheating will simply be done locally by

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread fooler mail
2009/7/13 Pablo Manalastas : > > I volunteered as IT consultant for CenPEG, the Center for People Empowerment > in Governance.  This is a NGO, and it is engaged in a project to document and > analyze the computerized 2010 elections.  CenPEG is not against > computerization. It is in favor of com

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Pablo Manalastas
My GPG 1.4.9 supports the following algorithms: Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA Cipher: 3DES (S2), CAST5 (S3), BLOWFISH (S4), AES (S7), AES192 (S8), AES256 (S9), TWOFISH (S10) Hash: MD5 (H1), SHA1 (H2), RIPEMD160 (H3), SHA256 (H8), SHA384 (H9), SHA512 (H10), SHA224 (H11) Com

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Pablo Manalastas
Thank you for volunteering. The AES 2010 project (of the UP College of Law and CenPEG) meets at the project office on the 3rd floor of the UP Law Library in Diliman. I will email you at a later date to inform you of our next meeting. Thank you for stepping forward and volunteering. We would

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Pablo Manalastas
These are the ideas that we need to tell Comelec! Thank you Holden (from Davao?) //PManalastas --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Holden Hao wrote: > From: Holden Hao > > - Political parties should have technical representatives > and each should be given GPG keys.  After the source code > review, they s

Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers

2009-07-14 Thread Pablo Manalastas
The reason that I posted two very long messages to this list is so that I can give detailed descriptions of the two classes of computers that will be used for election 2010. The precinct count optical scan machines are digital scanners that read pencil/felt-tip marks (shading in ovals next to c