On 9/23/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> are we better than them because we chose the more pragmatic
> proprietary software?
You think using FOSS in government is about being better than other countries?
> did we gain advantage over them because we can
> focus our resourc
Hi Paolo,
On 9/23/06, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This only supports the situation where inferior FOSS will be used just
> because it's FOSS, compared to competent non-FOSS when the bill does
> get passed into law in its current incarnation.
Huh? The current law doesn't
On 9/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Gumawa ng zone yung ang isang webhosting company (let say TTL nya is 5D).
Pano ko malalaman (on my end) kung ilang oras/araw ko na lang aantayin yung
propagation ng dns? My way bang i-check ko ito? Pano?
IIRC you can get an idea of when a
On 9/23/06, Tito Mari Francis Escaño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Give the guy a break, he sounds like in the Micro$oft Linux FUD
Campaign payroll, no matter how he tries to convince everyone,
including himself, that he supports FOSS.
You know better than to say that, Tito. For what its worth, t
On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 13:59 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> the municipality where my uncle is Mayor, helped him set up the eLGU
> system provided by the NCC (which is crappy FOSS), and have had my
> share of Windows 2000 horror stories.
eRPTS really sucked (there, I've said it) - having hear
Hi Roger!
On 9/23/06, Roger Filomeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ahem. Intermission.
A very nice one indeed. ;-)
It seems we are all mostly concerned with the bill's _mandatory_ nature to
promote FOSS by directly restricting the freedom of choice of
platform/OS/etc IMHO its more proper to ca
Hi Tito Mari Francis Escaño,
On 9/23/06, Tito Mari Francis Escaño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Give the guy a break, he sounds like in the Micro$oft Linux FUD
Campaign payroll, no matter how he tries to convince everyone,
including himself, that he supports FOSS.
You talking about me?
Hmmm...
Tito Mari Francis Escaño writes:
Use whois, i.e. whois
Nope. It doesnt answer my question.
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Hi Thad!
On 9/23/06, thad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Dean,
I would rather you be heard by our congressmen and it is within your
right and privilege. The thing is the bill was filed in congress, the
chair has no other recourse but to refer that bill to an appropriate
committee. So no matter
I agree, the problem is the mandatory nature of the proposed bill. The
government should not be biased towards OSS or proprietary software. The
government should be free to use whatever works for them. If they have
to pay for it, then they have to. RHEL and Suse Enterprise Linux are
both commer
On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 11:41 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> Hi Paolo,
>
> On 9/23/06, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 20:19 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh wait, but the FOSS bill doesn't even cover that part of the
> > > equation on p
Use whois, i.e. whois
Hope this helps. Thanks!
On 9/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi All,
Tinanong lang po ito sa akin pero di ko rin nasagot kaya tanong ko rin po sa
inyo.
Gumawa ng zone yung ang isang webhosting company (let say TTL nya is 5D).
Pano ko malalaman (on
Give the guy a break, he sounds like in the Micro$oft Linux FUD
Campaign payroll, no matter how he tries to convince everyone,
including himself, that he supports FOSS.
On 9/23/06, thad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Dean,
I would rather you be heard by our congressmen and it is within your
righ
Hi All,
Tinanong lang po ito sa akin pero di ko rin nasagot kaya tanong ko rin po sa
inyo.
Gumawa ng zone yung ang isang webhosting company (let say TTL nya is 5D).
Pano ko malalaman (on my end) kung ilang oras/araw ko na lang aantayin yung
propagation ng dns? My way bang i-check ko ito? Pan
Hi Dean,
I would rather you be heard by our congressmen and it is within your
right and privilege. The thing is the bill was filed in congress, the
chair has no other recourse but to refer that bill to an appropriate
committee. So no matter what we talked and discussed here it will
just be for
Hi Thad,
On 9/23/06, thad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This discussions are getting out of bounds!
I beg to differ... We're still arguing on topic.
If you really wanna rant
with all of your brain out do your mind twisting allegories in the
hall of congress when the public hearing for this bil
Hi Paolo,
On 9/23/06, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 20:19 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
>
> Oh wait, but the FOSS bill doesn't even cover that part of the
> equation on procurement and acquisition of third party service! And
> even if there's bidding p
Hi Rogelio,
On 9/22/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9/22/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Having read this post again, I am a little apprehensive with the term
> "acquire" because it has something to do with ownership. I would
> rather use the term "procur
This discussions are getting out of bounds! If you really wanna rant
with all of your brain out do your mind twisting allegories in the
hall of congress when the public hearing for this bill will be held.
We heard and read enough after all your lectures will be a great
learning experience for all
hi!
Since you have the RHEL CDs, I assume you have a support contract, and
therefore have access to RHN. Use that.
i have evaluation CD's (thanks touchpoint), i have restrictions so i cannot get access to RHN (yet).
you mean i cannot install packages off the CDs without a connection to RHN?
rpm -q dhcp-3.0.1-12_EL -l | grep conf
no output, i would assume that the installation doesnt create a default .conf
file. unlike, say, ubuntu..
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On 9/22/06, roderick tapang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9/22/06, Tony Raboza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Peeps,
>
> Sino dito may IBM servers running Linux? Ini-install ba ninyo yung IBM
> Director? Ok b
On 9/22/06, Tony Raboza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Peeps,
Sino dito may IBM servers running Linux? Ini-install ba ninyo yung IBM
Director? Ok ba siya -- o gamit na lang ako iba -- like snmpd?
Kaka-install ko lang ng agent ... napansin ko Java app siya. Thanks.
- Tony
i'm still using nmon
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 20:19 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> Hi Paolo,
>
> > > In the case of Inferior FOSS vs. Competent non-FOSS : the government
> > > will use FOSS if this bill becomes law!!! And that's what you say is
> > > clearly more advantageous to government?
> >
> > For crying out lo
On 9/22/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Rage!
On 9/22/06, Rage Callao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong but we do seem to agree on some points here such as:
>
> 1. That government should only acquire software wherein it has access
> to the source code.
Peeps,Sino dito may IBM servers running Linux? Ini-install ba ninyo yung IBM Director? Ok ba siya -- o gamit na lang ako iba -- like snmpd? Kaka-install ko lang ng agent ... napansin ko Java app siya. Thanks.
- Tony
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Hi Rage!
On 9/22/06, Rage Callao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but we do seem to agree on some points here such as:
1. That government should only acquire software wherein it has access
to the source code.
Having read this post again, I am a little apprehensive with the
Hi David!
On 9/22/06, david t. asuncion, jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Elo Sir Dean,
No "Sir" please. ;-)
On 9/22/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh wait, but the FOSS bill doesn't even cover that part of the
> equation on procurement and acquisition of third party s
Hi Rage!
On 9/22/06, Rage Callao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but we do seem to agree on some points here such as:
1. That government should only acquire software wherein it has access
to the source code.
2. That government should be free to modify the code by itself or
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try mo wordprocomputers.com cheapest! "Jed R. Mallen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/21/06, Jay Hermida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> hello, can anyone suggest the cheapest webhosting here in the phils? or any> quotations at all?>> thanks for the feedback guys.http://www.philhosting.net/P30/mo o
Elo Sir Dean,On 9/22/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In the case of Inferior FOSS vs. Competent non-FOSS : the government> > will use FOSS if this bill becomes law!!! And that's what you say is> > clearly more advantageous to government?
>> For crying out loud... you don't ne
Hi Joey,
On Friday 22 September 2006 13:51, Joey S. Eisma wrote:
> hi!
>
> i need to install application (i.e. dhcp) using the command line. i dont
> have x installed. how do you do that?
>
> having stfw, i encountered yum.
>
> i try to run "yum" but i get "command not found." how do you install
Hi Dean,
On 9/22/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Rage,
On 9/22/06, Rage Callao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Dean,
>
> On 9/22/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, then make certain "standards" regarding the contents of the
> > softare licenses an
Hi Paolo,
On 9/22/06, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 10:28 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
>
> Googling [define: bias] ::
>
> # influence in an unfair way; "you are biasing my choice by telling me yours"
> # a partiality that prevents objective considerat
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 10:28 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> Hi Paolo!
>
> On 9/21/06, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 22:19 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, there is a difference between "bias against something" and
> > > "exception
Hi Paolo,
On 9/22/06, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 16:13 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> Hi Rage,
>
>
> What I'm saying is that it's alright for government to say that "for
> all further ICT projects wherein software will have to be
> procured/acquire
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 16:13 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> Hi Rage,
>
> On 9/22/06, Rage Callao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Dean,
> >
> > On 9/22/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Well, then make certain "standards" regarding the contents of the
> > > softare lice
On 9/22/06, Joey S. Eisma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i understand up2date needs to connect to RHN, what if i want to install from
the install CDs?
you mount the CD first? :)
yum is not part of RHEL4. you can get it from dag.wieers.com if you want.
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retapang at gmai
On 9/22/06, Joey S. Eisma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i understand up2date needs to connect to RHN,
Since you have the RHEL CDs, I assume you have a support contract, and
therefore have access to RHN. Use that.
Now, if you don't have a support contract, use CentOS instead!
--
Gideon N. Guille
Hi Rage,
On 9/22/06, Rage Callao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Dean,
On 9/22/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, then make certain "standards" regarding the contents of the
> softare licenses and not the type of license the software comes in. It
> shouldn't matter that it
i try to run "yum" but i get "command not found." how do you install yum?
For the real RHEL (not CentOS) use up2date instead of yum.
i understand up2date needs to connect to RHN, what if i want to install from
the install CDs?
thanks!
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Hi Dean,
On 9/22/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, then make certain "standards" regarding the contents of the
softare licenses and not the type of license the software comes in. It
shouldn't matter that it's a FOSS license which the OSI determines, or
a license that simpl
On 9/21/06, Jay Hermida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hello, can anyone suggest the cheapest webhosting here in the phils? or any
quotations at all?
thanks for the feedback guys.
http://www.philhosting.net/
P30/mo on the basic plan (60MB...)
haven't tried it tho.
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