On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 14:24 +0800, david t. asuncion, jr. wrote:
> I hope this is still the right forum to ask. :)
>
> I don't see in the proposed bill what would happen to existing
> government (closed-source) softwares like the eNGAS, CRIS, etc. Would
> these (closed-source) softwares stay in u
I hope this is still the right forum to ask. :)I don't see in the proposed bill what would happen to existing government (closed-source) softwares like the eNGAS, CRIS, etc. Would these (closed-source) softwares stay in use by the government after the passage of the proposed bill, or a new FOSS ve
On 9/21/06, Roger Filomeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I love the thread, hooked on reading this everyday. Anyway here are some of my humble opinions which may have been pointed out already but was over-shadowed by other passionate remarks.Same here, and I'm learning a lot.
- I agree that we should
I love the thread, hooked on reading this everyday. Anyway here are some of my humble opinions which may have been pointed out already but was over-shadowed by other passionate remarks.- I agree that we shouldn't copy other country's policy on FOSS, surely our economic, political and sociological b
I wrote my ideas about computerizing Philippine elections in my blog,http://AmboSpeak.blogspot.com/I advocate the use of open source software, including Ubuntu Linux,and existing hardware in computer rental shops, schools, internet cafes,etc.Your comments are welcome.Pablo Manalastas
All-new Ya
Holden Hao wrote:
I see that the problem here is that the software development team is
also doing technical support. This should be avoided specially in
large organizations. You are using expensive resources to do
training and technical support. Besides programmers do not
necessarily hav
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On 9/20/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Rage,
I took my time before replying to this message of yours, because I
wanted to jump on your side or where you're coming from and try to see
it the way you're seeing it. I may have made the same arguments a few
years ago when I was
Interesting. I can use the LCDs available at Alexan, right? I still prefer blinking LEDs though. It gives me that Star Trek panel look and it might take away all the fun.Thanks!
On 9/21/06, Ariz Jacinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
you can still use the serial port for a parallel output by adding a s
this would only work if the migration only intends to removeor replace the unnecessary licenses (MSOfc / OOo, Win32/ Ubuntu, etc.) but i don't think this is sufficient since it doesn'taddresses the "business continuity" aspect during / after the
migration which is critical for an enterprise. keep
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 22:19 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> > Not biased against proprietary software because it does not rule out
> > the use or purchase of proprietary software but merely sets it out as
> > the exception to the rule on what government uses or purchases. There
> > is a differ
On 9/20/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hi dean!I agree, I wouldn't want to have incompetent people make the choicesespecially when it comes to technology. Perhaps that's how you solvethe problem: remove the incompetent and corrupt people who make the
decisions.there are lots of
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 22:19 +0800, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> On 9/17/06, Rage Callao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 9/16/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Ah, but the institution you worked for had a choice right? It could
> > > have chosen FOSS or Propreitary softwa
i remember posting my story about desktop migration last yearthat we have this setup of workstations, each installed with adifferent distro. we let the users try each one of them, simulatingtheir production. and the outcome, the users were not particular
with the distro and they're after the deskt
you can still use the serial port for a parallel output by adding a serial-to-parallel chipalthough the programming is still in serial :)and you can also use an LCD instead of LED for your display (imagine the error_log
scrolling on the LCD, yikes but it's fun to watch!). check out the Linux LCD d
Quoting Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi Manny!
On 9/20/06, manny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> Making government *impose* anything is a draconian way of running
> governments. It's like requiring everyone to wear white shirts *only*
>
On Sep 20, 2006, at 12:08PM, Holden Hao wrote:
The only time change was accepted was when the managers had the
political will to implement changes and the users were not given any
say in the matter. Then they took the time to learn and now they are
reaping the benefits. "Sanayan lang pala." is
On 9/20/06, Carlos Yu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In the past few years, it has been relatively easy for our I.T.
department to migrate our servers and enterprise applications to Linux.
However, our attempt to migrate desktop users to Open Office (OO) in
Windows (not even Linux yet) failed misera
On 9/20/06, Holden Hao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I see that the problem here is that the software development team is also
doing technical support. This should be avoided specially in large
thats part of the problem. thats why developers are out of touch. and
what they make don't meet the
Hi Rage,
I took my time before replying to this message of yours, because I
wanted to jump on your side or where you're coming from and try to see
it the way you're seeing it. I may have made the same arguments a few
years ago when I was deep in the "FOSS is the light" and "FOSS is the
right way"
On 9/20/06, Holden Hao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Upper management wanted to do away with payment of licenses so they
> asked me to introduce FOSS. Cost savings were around 20,000 pesos per
> machine. We had around 10 or so machines so that translated to about
> 200,000. Since these machines
In the past few years, it has been relatively easy for our I.T.department to migrate our servers and enterprise applications to Linux.
However, our attempt to migrate desktop users to Open Office (OO) inWindows (not even Linux yet) failed miserably! The reason for that issimple: training, support
Hi Manny!
On 9/20/06, manny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
> Making government *impose* anything is a draconian way of running
> governments. It's like requiring everyone to wear white shirts *only*
> when in government offices -- the policy is not on
Upper management wanted to do away with payment of licenses so theyasked me to introduce FOSS. Cost savings were around 20,000 pesos per
machine. We had around 10 or so machines so that translated to about200,000. Since these machines were supposed to be running win98, whichisn't available anymore
well that entails training cost. and this is where the devil lies.
This is true, however, I believe this is only true at the
beginning. The high initial cost should pay for itself in the
future. But I must admit that this makes it difficult for
companies to make the switch. They are not willing
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
Making government *impose* anything is a draconian way of running
governments. It's like requiring everyone to wear white shirts *only*
when in government offices -- the policy is not only silly, it is
needless.
This is a clear example of a straw
The key here is gradual change. Subjecting users to Linux *AND*OpenOffice.org Office suite is like giving a driver who is used to
using an automatic car with power steering a stick shift with nopower steering. Introduce one first and in this case, OpenOffice.orgOffice on Windows before changing the
Thanks. I did see my classmates use the parallel ports instead of RS232. I based my _experiment_ from a sample that I saw.On 9/20/06, Rowel Atienza <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:JohnIf you need I/O, use the parallel port. You could get at most 16-bit I/O
ports TTL level.If you are stuck to using RS232
John
If you need I/O, use the parallel port. You could get at most 16-bit I/O
ports TTL level.
If you are stuck to using RS232, you should realize that it is serial.
Data transaction is by stream. The only controllable logic pins would be
RTS and DTR. Voltage level is RS232.
The same is true for
Interesting insights...maybe someone can help me:
The company I work for has over 1,000 licensed Windows XP/MS Office
PCs. Also, we purchase an additional 50-100 licenses each year.
In the past few years, it has been relatively easy for our I.T.
department to migrate our servers and enterpri
On 9/20/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Holden!
On 9/20/06, Holden Hao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The governement does not have the resources and the man power. But
> if they have the budget I would rather have them source out FOSS solutions
> to local providers. This w
Hi Holden!
On 9/20/06, Holden Hao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The governement does not have the resources and the man power. But
if they have the budget I would rather have them source out FOSS solutions
to local providers. This way the government saves money from exorbitant
licenses and at the
Sabi ni Rogelio noong Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 2:05 PM:
heheh there goes! the trusty old typewriter. i take that as a hint,
seriously. nobody has a problem with that ui at all! there is
something a computer cannot match in the utility of a typewriter. i
True, but look at how much more you can do wi
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