Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-29 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello all, Michael Biebl [2016-05-19 18:27 +0200]: > Could we add the Important: yes field to "init"? Having that makes a lot > of sense to me. Indeed, I did that now in git. I tested in a schroot, and "apt-get purge init" now indeed complains ("yes, do as I say"), but one can still remove it wit

Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-19 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 19.05.2016 um 18:29 schrieb Ansgar Burchardt: > On Thu, 2016-05-19 at 18:27 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Could we add the Important: yes field to "init"? Having that makes a >> lot of sense to me. > > To init or to its dependencies (systemd-sysv, sysvinit-core)? The > latter would not only w

Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-19 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 19.05.2016 um 18:27 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Am 19.05.2016 um 18:11 schrieb Martin Pitt: >> >>> - Now: >>>+ "init" package: Remove "Essential: yes" >>>+ "init-system-helpers" package: Add "Essential: yes" >>> - Later: >>>+ "init": Change priority from "required" to "important". >>

Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-19 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On Thu, 2016-05-19 at 18:27 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Could we add the Important: yes field to "init"? Having that makes a > lot of sense to me. To init or to its dependencies (systemd-sysv, sysvinit-core)?  The latter would not only warn when uninstalling all init systems, but also when switc

Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-19 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 19.05.2016 um 18:11 schrieb Martin Pitt: > Control: tag -1 pending > > Hello all, > > Ansgar Burchardt [2016-05-05 15:05 +0200]: >> I would like "init" to be optional in Debian 9 for chroot environments >> and some uses of containers. A first step seems to be making "init" no >> longer essent

Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-19 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, On Thu, 2016-05-19 at 18:11 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > > And do we miss anything for the priority change after that (besides > > confirming with d-boot@)? > Would you mind starting the discussion on d-boot for that? I would like to wait a few more days (until the next d-i alpha currently in

Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-19 Thread Martin Pitt
Control: tag -1 pending Hello all, Ansgar Burchardt [2016-05-05 15:05 +0200]: > I would like "init" to be optional in Debian 9 for chroot environments > and some uses of containers. A first step seems to be making "init" no > longer essential; it would nice nice if the priority could later be >

Processed: Re: Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-19 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tag -1 pending Bug #756023 [init] init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers Bug #823501 [init] init: move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers Added tag(s) pending. Added tag(s) pending. -- 756023: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr

Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-06 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Hello all. On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 03:49:57PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Felipe Sateler writes: [...] > > The util-linux maintainer is very much trying to get rid of that > > dependency (I can't find an online reference, but discussed on IRC), > > and it is not done only because apt currentl

Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-05 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Felipe Sateler writes: > On 5 May 2016 at 10:05, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >> As maintainer scripts call `invoke-rc.d` and `update-rc.d` >> unconditionally, the package providing these scripts should be made >> essential (i.e. add "Essential: yes" to init-system-helpers). > > Just thinking out loud,

Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-05 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 5 May 2016 at 10:18, Felipe Sateler wrote: >> Do we miss anything to start with moving the "Essential" field? I think >> /bin/pidof was mentioned which is provided by sysvinit-utils; however >> sysvinit-utils will continue to stay quasi-essential as util-linux has >> Depends: sysvinit-utils

Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-05 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 5 May 2016 at 10:05, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Control: retitle -1 init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to > init-system-helpers > Control: tag -1 - patch > Control: forcemerge -1 823501 > > I would like "init" to be optional in Debian 9 for chroot environments > and some uses of containers.

Bug#756023: init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers

2016-05-05 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Control: retitle -1 init: Move "Essential: yes" from init to init-system-helpers Control: tag -1 - patch Control: forcemerge -1 823501 I would like "init" to be optional in Debian 9 for chroot environments and some uses of containers. A first step seems to be making "init" no longer essential; it