was the meeting recorded? where can I watch it? Vip is something I've
wanted to hack for quite some time, but got really confused each time I
tried to read it XD
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021, 11:14 Cesar Rabak wrote:
> Good for me too.
>
> Thanks for all the replies so far!
>
> l look forward to the nex
I've realized that the 'pico namespace is a tree, but I can't figure out
which kind of tree. It does not seem fit with a binary tree structure.
So, what's the structure of namespaces, and what's the algorithm for
organizing the symbols inside a namespace list?
'simul namespace the same as creating the
'pico namespace?
And how is the namespace of a loaded file created?
On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 2:01 PM Alexander Burger
wrote:
> Hi polifemo,
>
> > I've realized that the 'pico namespace is a tree, but I can't figure
OH! I think I'm getting it!
for example, 'simul is '(\~ ("permute" ("shuffle" ("flood" ("G" NIL "gen"
("DX" NIL "DY" ("FX") "FY" NIL "Col") "game" ("grid" ("Grid")) "west"
("east" ("East" ("disp")) "West")) "south" ("north" NIL "South") "border"))
"subsets" ("samples")))
Something that confused me
s for answering my questions! Having such clear an practically
immediate feedback makes it a joy to learn. I really am grateful.
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 1:00 AM Alexander Burger
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 03:13:10PM -0500, polifemo wrote:
> > OH! I think I'm getting it!
> &g
it seems that ^X does not exit a breaking point to the main picolisp
process anymore.
When I break a process with ^C, for example `(loop (println "hello world")
(wait 1000))`, I enter a breakpoint, but I can't return to toplevel with ^X
as I used to.
was this functionality disabled?
for now, I c
Inspired by the way methods are defined, by just defining them and looking
which class a method belongs to by looking into the global variable *Class,
I'd like to have a similar mechanism for creating docstrings.
My idea is something like this:
```
(de f (A) A)
(mkdocstr "A test function that retu
reading the file that calls vip, the first line is:
(unless *Dbg
(load "@lib/vip.l") )
why does it seem that, when in debug mode, the vip library is prevented
from loading? its especially confusing since it seems to do nothing, as
running `vip +` runs vip normally.
ok! thank you! :D
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 12:05 PM Alexander Burger
wrote:
> On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 11:40:50AM -0500, polifemo wrote:
> > reading the file that calls vip, the first line is:
> >
> > (unless *Dbg
> >(load "@lib/vip.l") )
> >
> &g
reading through the file @bin/vip, I found this line:
((pre? "+" S)
inside this function
(bye
(if
(vip~vi
(make
(while (opt)
(let S @
(cond
->> ((pre? "+" S)
(link
(
whoa! that's ingenious! Thank you for the quick response
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 1:41 PM Alexander Burger
wrote:
> On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 01:15:54PM -0500, polifemo wrote:
> > (cond
> > ->> ((pre? "+"
I'm having trouble loading the library picohome/ext.l with the minus
notation of vip.
I could not find an example in the wiki's documentation, could someone be
kind enough to explain how to use it?
I'm using picolisp version 21.4.10
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 4:59 PM polifemo
wrote:
> I'm having trouble loading the library picohome/ext.l with the minus
> notation of vip.
>
> I could not find an example in the wiki's documentation, could someone be
> kind enough to explain how to use it?
>
I realized the source of my previous loading problem:
(bye
(if
(vip~vi
(make
(while (opt)
(let S @
(cond
((pre? "+" S)
(link
(cons
(c
(T (link S)) ) ) ) ) )
0
1 ) )
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 5:39 PM polifemo
wrote:
> I realized the source of my previous loading problem:
>
> (bye
>(if
> (vip~vi
> (make
> (while (opt)
>(let S @
oh! I get it! thanks for clearing that up.
On Fri, May 14, 2021, 00:40 Alexander Burger wrote:
> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 07:16:27AM +0200, Alexander Burger wrote:
> > In Vip, this is useful for example to set the correct namespace:
> >
> >$ vip --symbols llvm src/main.l +
> >
> > (note the d
the doc of 'eval says this:
(eval 'any ['cnt]) -> any
Evaluates any. Note that because of the standard argument evaluation, any
is actually evaluated twice.
If an offset cnt is given, the value of @ in the
cnt'th call environment is used during the second evaluation. cnt should be
greater than ze
On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 10:19 PM polifemo
wrote:
> the doc of 'eval says this:
>
> (eval 'any ['cnt]) -> any
> Evaluates any. Note that because of the standard argument evaluation, any
> is actually evaluated twice.
>
> If an offset cnt is given, t
I'm studying 'trace in @lib.l, and I've run into a question.
I don't understand why must 'eval be called on the second number on the
case that the first number is negative. I'm especially confused by giving 1
as an argument to 'eval. That's supposed to give you the context from which
to extract the
ok, I've found a way to pass an expression to eval:
(task -5000 (* 10 100) N 0 (tty (println (inc 'N
the next step is to figure a way to use @ inside that expression
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 7:14 PM polifemo
wrote:
> I'm studying 'trace in @lib.l, and I've ru
7;when,
which is the enclosing caller of the (eval (++ Prg) 1) expression.
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 7:19 PM polifemo
wrote:
> ok, I've found a way to pass an expression to eval:
> (task -5000 (* 10 100) N 0 (tty (println (inc 'N
>
> the next step is to figure a way to us
I'm not sure if this is really a bug, since the behaviour I expected only
runs in a version of 'task I'm refactoring right now. But I'll try anyways.
So, running:
(task -5000 (/ @ 5) (tty (println 'a)))
does not save in *Run my expected:
(-5000 -1000 (tty (println 'a)))
but instead it saves this
I see, I had misunderstood the @'s meaning there. Thanks for the
clarification!
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 12:03 AM Alexander Burger
wrote:
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 04:53:50PM -0500, polifemo wrote:
> > So, running:
> > (task -5000 (/ @ 5) (tty (println 'a)))
> &g
while
`(let @ 1 (let @ 10 (let @ 20 (up 2 @`
returns 1, as I expected, if I enclose the 'up expression inside a function
like `(de f (N) (up N @))` then no value of N will yield the value of @ in
an environment higher than the innermost let:
`
: (let @ 1 (let @ 10 (let @ 20 (f 3)))
-> 20
`
how
at 12:55 AM Alexander Burger
wrote:
> On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 08:44:32PM -0500, polifemo wrote:
> > `(let @ 1 (let @ 10 (let @ 20 (up 2 @`
>
> This are two misunderstandings in this example:
>
> 1. It has not a good idea to bind '@' in a 'let' expre
As I refactor pil21 for my amusement, I've found the function '+ being used
on single numbers. What is this for? As far as I could think, it might have
to do something with formatting... but I really can't think of anything.
here are two examples, in related operations:
(de timeout (N)
(if2 N
thanks for the explanation! I'm glad I was able to help a little : )
On Tue, May 25, 2021, 00:35 Alexander Burger wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 08:03:35PM -0500, polifemo wrote:
> > As I refactor pil21 for my amusement, I've found the function '+ being
> used
>
(prog . '((+ 1 2 3) (+ 4 5 6))) returns the expected value, 15, while
(apply 'prog '((+ 1 2 3) (+ 4 5 6))) fails with "Address boundary error".
Why is this so? I would have expected both to behave the same, and they do
if I use a more benign function like '+
(+ . (1 2 3)) -> 6
(apply '+ (1 2 3))
I see! thanks!
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 12:39 AM Alexander Burger
wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:49:57PM -0500, polifemo wrote:
> > (prog . '((+ 1 2 3) (+ 4 5 6))) returns the expected value, 15, while
> > (apply 'prog '((+ 1 2 3) (+ 4 5 6))) fails with "
Studying the implementation of 'later, I'm curious as to why the pipe is
run inside a 'task. I've tested it and it works just fine without the task.
My guess is that it allows for parallel processes. Programs inside *Run are
run independently of the sequence of the main program. If it was run
with
termux in the app store is not being updated anymore, and the team
recommended I move to the F-droid version of the app, since they are not
gonna update to the google app store anymore.
I followed the termux updating instructions, but after the update penti
stopped working with termux. If I try to
> termux in the app store is not being updated anymore, and the team
> recommended I move to the F-droid version of the app, since they are not
> gonna update to the google app store anymore.
>
> I followed the termux updating instructions, but after the update penti
> stopped working with termux.
this worked perfectly, thank you so much!
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 13:53 Alexander Burger wrote:
> Hi polifemo,
>
> > I followed the termux updating instructions, but after the update penti
> > stopped working with termux. If I try to open penti it glitches and stops
> > wo
I'm slowly studying the @lib/vip.l source, and I've run into a global
variable that appears to not be documented.
What's the use of *KeyMap ? I guess it's something to do with custom
keyboard remappings?
Thanks for your time.
Still reading the vip source, and I've noticed that, often, a method call
will have more arguments than defined in the method definition. Like:
(dm dirty> (Win)
(<> (: undo) (: dirt)) )
..
(if (dirty> (: buffer) This) " * " " ")
..
(dirty> (: buffer) This)
and
(dm load> (Win)
..
(load> (:
the rest of the code, but “This” is not an
> > argument, but a global variable managed by the system to have the
> current object
> > as a value:
>
> Right.
>
>
> > > On 21. Dec 2022, at 16:51, polifemo
> wrote:
>
> > > What does this mean? Why is T
I have a loop that executes a prg and then waits for the user to input
something. If the user does not input anything within the timeout, the
waiting is aborted and the loop restarts.
The problem is that, I want the timeout to be much faster, but 'abort only
works in seconds. Is there a way to abor
Thank you so much! I used poll to check for anything to read from stdin and
it worked flawlessly. Here's the code. It does not have any context, but it
is an example of how to use poll:
'(loop
(eval (loadRepeat))
(wait 100)
(T (and (poll 0) (= "53" (line T)))
(set
I just downloaded the latest pil21.tgz (2023-11-11) in my linux box. The
installation fails immediately with:
```
clang-16: error: unable to make temporary file: No such file or directory
make: *** [Makefile:32: ../lib/sysdefs] Error 1
```
I think it's trying to search for the sysdefs.c file in p
file:
No such file or directory" error.
Thanks Abu for the clue ;)
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 1:46 AM Alexander Burger
wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 04:14:02PM -0500, polifemo wrote:
> > clang-16: error: unable to make temporary file: No such file or directory
> > make:
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