Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-24 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
J>> sTrPoS J>> StRpOs J>> STrpOS J>> stRPos J>> sTRpOS J>> ... J>> sTRPOS J>> STRPOs Once I had to deal with an assembler for some embedded processor that allowed symbol names up to 6 characters. That was exactly the way to make different readable identifiers, so t

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-23 Thread JayAchTee
I don't know about you guys and gals but I use the SHIFT key strokes as "think" time. All that time shifting and unshifting should be put to good use, so I do my part. Tab and backspace are other key strokes that can be used to gain some think time. The tab key will insert some number of "space

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-23 Thread JayAchTee
I just did Tools|Options and turned on my "Spell check before sending" option! Regards, John Thompson "Bradley Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > At 10:04 AM 5/10/01 -0500, Greg Brunet wrote: > >Actually, one thing that I REALLY like abo

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-23 Thread JayAchTee
-to-day standard. > > > > - Theo > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Brunet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 1:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub. > > > Tim

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-23 Thread JayAchTee
Okay, lets take a step back from the volitile issue and consider the facts. Given the "average" variable name is, let's say, 8 characters. Then one variable name with case sensitivity allows you to use the SAME typing sequence for a total of 256 DIFFERENT variables. I think that surely has som

RE: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-23 Thread Boget, Chris
> Midnight Commander on Linux is one of the best editors our > there. It ranks right up there with the VERY OLD Microsft > Editor which I still use regularly! Anybody else remember "me"? "me"? Multi-Edit? If so, that editor rules! I just wish their Windows version didn't suck. I still use

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-23 Thread JayAchTee
is it really case sensitive? i don't think i've noticed! :-) Regards, John Thompson ""Greg Brunet"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 9dcg4m$v7e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9dcg4m$v7e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Well, as much as I like PHP, the article is accurate as far as running it on > Window

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-23 Thread JayAchTee
Midnight Commander on Linux is one of the best editors our there. It ranks right up there with the VERY OLD Microsft Editor which I still use regularly! Anybody else remember "me"? Regards, John Thompson "Johan Lundqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PR

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-23 Thread JayAchTee
I am both a developer and a PC Mag subscriber (charter). IMO, PHP allows me to QUICKLY develop web applications that are both RELIABLE and FAST. I use NT/2000 w/ IIS ISAPI and CGI and Linux/Apache 1.3/mod_php servers and develop portable code so I can move the applications from server to server

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Tim Uckun
>No. Certainly not. I guess there's a lot of people used to VB in php-windows@, >and I'm not subscribed to php-general@ anymore, so I don't know about that, >but everyone who raised their voice on this topic on php-dev@ or php-qa@ has >been for making function names case-sensitive. I guess I don

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Greg Brunet
Hi Cynic: "Cynic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm ++1 on making PHP 100% case-sensitive. I just hate to see MySQL_Connect(), > MYSQL_Connect(), mySQL_DB_Query(), etc., in other people's source. It makes it > hard to read. It also makes the n

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Cynic
Hi Greg, At 22:54 10.5. 2001, Greg Brunet wrote the following: -- >Actually, I think that the installer works just fine & given that the ISAPI This reminds me: me and Phil Driscoll have written new version of the installer. Anyone on

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Greg Brunet
""Greg Brunet"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 9deuq7$j9k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9deuq7$j9k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Tom: > > You've got a lot of good points through the whole message, so I won't quote > the whole thing. Oops - I did anyway - sorry 'bout that. -- Greg -- PHP Windows Mai

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Greg Brunet
Tom: You've got a lot of good points through the whole message, so I won't quote the whole thing. First, I know that my "complaints" are probably going to be taken as an ungrateful "us vs. them" attitude. Let me state up front that I think that what all of the PHP developers/contributors have d

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Greg Brunet
I suppose you could look at it that way, but actually, since VB isn't case-sensitive, it wouldn't matter how I typed it as long as I spell it right. So it's not like a spell checker correcting my spelling. Rather, it's like a word processor applying the paragraph style for me instead of me havin

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Tom Mathews
Still not a flame, just a gripe against MS to think about! > > Actually, one thing that I REALLY like about the newer VB development > environment is that it will automatically correct/adjust the case of your > variables/functions to match their definition. This allows me to define > them accor

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Bradley Miller
At 10:04 AM 5/10/01 -0500, Greg Brunet wrote: >Actually, one thing that I REALLY like about the newer VB development >environment is that it will automatically correct/adjust the case of your >variables/functions to match their definition. This allows me to define >them according to my naming con

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Greg Brunet
Hi Theo: It's interesting - I look at it like: is there any reason why you'd want a StrPos(), Strpos(), etc. functions that do different things? Actually I certainly always try to type things the same way, but if I accidentally type Strpos instead of StrPos, I don't want to have that generate a

RE: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Brinkman, Theodore
-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub. Tim: AAARRRGGH! They got it half-right with case insensitive functions and now they're going to mess up the part that's done right!?! It is quite annoying that they aren't consistent, but I was thankful that at least the functions

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Cynic
you got it the other way round - it's going to get ***better***. I agree with the rest of your msg. At 00:46 10.5. 2001, Tim Uckun wrote the following: -- >>Finally, one language issue that is a real pet peeve of mine is case >>sensi

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-10 Thread Tom Mathews
Tim Uckun wrote: > > > >Finally, one language issue that is a real pet peeve of mine is case > >sensitive variable definitions. This is not a problem in either CFM or ASP. > >While it can be somewhat worked around by setting the PHP error level > >reporting to flag uninitialized variables, it is

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-09 Thread Tim Uckun
At 12:05 AM 5/10/2001 -0500, Greg Brunet wrote: >Tim: > >AAARRRGGH! They got it half-right with case insensitive functions and now >they're going to mess up the part that's done right!?! It is quite annoying >that they aren't consistent, but I was thankful that at least the functions >were workin

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-09 Thread Greg Brunet
Tim: AAARRRGGH! They got it half-right with case insensitive functions and now they're going to mess up the part that's done right!?! It is quite annoying that they aren't consistent, but I was thankful that at least the functions were working "right". -- Greg "Tim Uckun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-09 Thread Tim Uckun
> >Finally, one language issue that is a real pet peeve of mine is case >sensitive variable definitions. This is not a problem in either CFM or ASP. >While it can be somewhat worked around by setting the PHP error level >reporting to flag uninitialized variables, it is a deficiency that is long

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-09 Thread Greg Brunet
Well, as much as I like PHP, the article is accurate as far as running it on Windows is concerned. It's not really a problem to get it running as an ISAPI module (though the Windows install program wisely sets it up in CGI mode only). I've continually tried to get the ISAPI version to handle som

RE: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-09 Thread Kelvin Luck
notice of the editors... -Original Message- From: Robin Bolton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 May 2001 16:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub. Perhaps people should contact him, or the magazine and make logical, well though

RE: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-09 Thread Robin Bolton
Perhaps people should contact him, or the magazine and make logical, well thought out arguments as to why the article was in error. Be careful that you don't attack him or accuse him of being an idiot, or biased. Just point out reasons why database abstraction is a bad idea, etc. I highly doubt

RE: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-09 Thread Robert Klinkenberg
Nice to know that some well known pc magazine wants to test PHP. Not so nice to know that people testing software for a major computer magazine don't know how to read the manual. Installing as an ISAPI module is not THAT difficult (Or am I a genius?). At least I don't know anyone having problems

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-09 Thread Johan Lundqvist
Well, well... PC-Mag, as most ZD-Net and IDG mag's, are in my opinion too dependant on Micro$oft advertising to make any "real" reviews on anything. And, as Joe Brown said, their target readers are windows-users. The "normal" windows user can't possibly read and/or understand ASCII code in an edit

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-08 Thread Joe Brown
LOL... I think his article is fine. PC-MAG caters to mostly windows users. And honestly, there are issues in php that haven't matured to 5 * rating. I think the developers are making leaps and bounds toward a solid windows product. There are many compilicatons that will cause the average PC-M

Re: [PHP-WIN] anti-advocacy: Larry Seltzer, pcmag May'01 pub.

2001-05-08 Thread Bradley Miller
At 02:04 PM 5/8/01 -0500, Dickerson, Monty wrote: >Today boss comes in and says, "Seen pcmag's story about php? says it is >bad." Argh: >http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2711724,00.html I read it too -- just one more reason to keep my mission critical stuff on Linux . . . and