Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-07-01 Thread Martin Marques
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Charlene Wroblewski wrote: *joining the fray a little late* What is the difference between this, Smarty and template.inc? I have found Smarty to be unusable in my situation where a graphic designer needs to be able to edit the html and is easily confused by non-html. So

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-29 Thread Charlene Wroblewski
*joining the fray a little late* What is the difference between this, Smarty and template.inc? I have found Smarty to be unusable in my situation where a graphic designer needs to be able to edit the html and is easily confused by non-html. So, I am using template.inc which is apparently ol

Re: [PHP] cool your jets [WAS: Re: [PHP] working on a template system...]

2006-06-28 Thread Micky Hulse
Lol! Omg, you guys make reading my email so much more fun! Cheers! Micky -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 19:29, tedd wrote: > At 3:21 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: > >Your kidding right? What you say above and what you say below are > >different. You must think I'm stupid. Oh well. > > > Robert ! > > Hey, don't get shorts in a knot -- I didn't mean anything of the s

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread David Tulloh
Martin Alterisio wrote: > 2006/6/28, Jon Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> I really don't understand why people have such disregard for PHP as a >> template system... I'm not saying one way is better or worse (it's >> really a matter of preference), just that the PHP way isn't implicitly >> ba

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread tedd
At 5:34 PM -0300 6/28/06, Martin Alterisio wrote: >Have you (all of you questioning the use of templates) ever worked in a >project with more than one developer, where part of the team ARE NOT coders? >WE understand code, but that's not the case for everyone else. Graphic >designers don't like code

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread tedd
At 3:39 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: >When did I ask you or anyone other than Tedd if they were living in a >cave? Yeah, that's right -- he didn't infer that anyone else lived in a cave, just me. If you want anyone else to tell you that you live in a cave, then you'll have to stand

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread tedd
At 3:28 PM -0400 6/28/06, John Nichel wrote: > > > > >-- >John C. Nichel IV >Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek) >Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo >716.856.9675 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] /* please note the humor tags */ Does that mean because I agreed with you, I'm now off your killfile list? Or does my r

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread tedd
At 3:21 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: >Your kidding right? What you say above and what you say below are >different. You must think I'm stupid. Oh well. Robert ! Hey, don't get shorts in a knot -- I didn't mean anything of the sort. I seldom deliberately go out of my way to insult an

Re: [PHP] cool your jets [WAS: Re: [PHP] working on a template system...]

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 18:35, Jochem Maas wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 18:11, Jochem Maas wrote: > >> Paul Novitski wrote: > >>> Hey kids, > >> hi mom. > > > > Dad had an operation? > > an invalid type conversion? I dunno, did you try it? Did you catch anything? Maybe

Re: [PHP] cool your jets [WAS: Re: [PHP] working on a template system...]

2006-06-28 Thread tedd
At 12:11 AM +0200 6/29/06, Jochem Maas wrote: >Paul Novitski wrote: >> Hey kids, > >hi mom. Oh no, not another one of those talks? What did I do this time? I wasn't anywhere near it, and no one saw me anyway. Besides mom, you should take some time off -- you appear to be wrapped a bit tight. Li

Re: [PHP] cool your jets [WAS: Re: [PHP] working on a template system...]

2006-06-28 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings wrote: > On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 18:11, Jochem Maas wrote: >> Paul Novitski wrote: >>> Hey kids, >> hi mom. > > Dad had an operation? an invalid type conversion? > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] cool your jets [WAS: Re: [PHP] working on a template system...]

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 18:11, Jochem Maas wrote: > Paul Novitski wrote: > > Hey kids, > > hi mom. Dad had an operation? -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :--

Re: [PHP] cool your jets [WAS: Re: [PHP] working on a template system...]

2006-06-28 Thread Jochem Maas
Paul Novitski wrote: > Hey kids, hi mom. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP] cool your jets [WAS: Re: [PHP] working on a template system...]

2006-06-28 Thread phpninja
1:15 PM To: PHP-General Subject: [PHP] cool your jets [WAS: Re: [PHP] working on a template system...] Hey kids, I thought I was joining a PHP list, not a snarky ego-fest. I assume most of us are trying to get work done around here and are interested in programming Q&A. Please take

Re: [PHP] cool your jets [WAS: Re: [PHP] working on a template system...]

2006-06-28 Thread Stut
Jay Blanchard wrote: /dev/null comes to mind. /dev/null came to my mind once. Not really sure what happened after that. -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Martin Alterisio
2006/6/28, Jon Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I really don't understand why people have such disregard for PHP as a template system... I'm not saying one way is better or worse (it's really a matter of preference), just that the PHP way isn't implicitly bad or messy... /* The Smarty way */ $smar

RE: [PHP] cool your jets [WAS: Re: [PHP] working on a template system...]

2006-06-28 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Can anyone recommend another PHP list where there's a much higher signal-to-noise ratio? [/snip] /dev/null comes to mind. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP] cool your jets [WAS: Re: [PHP] working on a template system...]

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Novitski
Hey kids, I thought I was joining a PHP list, not a snarky ego-fest. I assume most of us are trying to get work done around here and are interested in programming Q&A. Please take your squabbles off-list or re-title them. They're off-topic and a waste of everyone's else's time. Yeah I've

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 15:39, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 15:28, John Nichel wrote: > > Robert Cummings wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 15:10, tedd wrote: > > >> At 2:35 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: > > Not meaning to be contrary, but complex situations are sup

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 15:28, John Nichel wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 15:10, tedd wrote: > >> At 2:35 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: > Not meaning to be contrary, but complex situations are supposed to be > reduced to simplistic solutions. > >>> Tha

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread John Nichel
Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 15:10, tedd wrote: At 2:35 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: Not meaning to be contrary, but complex situations are supposed to be reduced to simplistic solutions. That's right, and a template engine simplifies the complexity. Cheers, Rob.

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 15:10, tedd wrote: > At 2:35 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > > > Not meaning to be contrary, but complex situations are supposed to be > > > reduced to simplistic solutions. > > > >That's right, and a template engine simplifies the complexity. > > > >Cheers, >

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread tedd
At 2:35 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > Not meaning to be contrary, but complex situations are supposed to be > > reduced to simplistic solutions. > >That's right, and a template engine simplifies the complexity. > >Cheers, >Rob. Okay, whatever tools work for you. Like we used to

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 14:10, tedd wrote: > At 2:02 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: > >On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 13:55, Jon Anderson wrote: > >> I really don't understand why people have such disregard for PHP as a > >> template system... I'm not saying one way is better or worse (it's > >> rea

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 14:19, Jon Anderson wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > Simplistic examples don't properly illustrate the mess that occurs in > > complex situations. > However, a simplistic example does properly illustrate my point nicely. > I could even take one of my complex multi-page sma

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Jon Anderson
Robert Cummings wrote: Simplistic examples don't properly illustrate the mess that occurs in complex situations. However, a simplistic example does properly illustrate my point nicely. I could even take one of my complex multi-page smarty templates, run and perl script to convert it, and end up

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread tedd
At 2:02 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: >On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 13:55, Jon Anderson wrote: >> I really don't understand why people have such disregard for PHP as a >> template system... I'm not saying one way is better or worse (it's >> really a matter of preference), just that the PHP way

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Martin Marques
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:28:43 -0400, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 8:32 AM -0300 6/28/06, Martin Marques wrote: >> >>Because it's a mess. >> > > That's because it got out of hand. Now, practice the 3R's, regroup, > rethink, and redo. Already did. That's when I started to use a template

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread tedd
At 1:55 PM -0400 6/28/06, Jon Anderson wrote: >I really don't understand why people have such disregard for PHP as a template >system... I'm not saying one way is better or worse (it's really a matter of >preference), just that the PHP way isn't implicitly bad or messy... > >/* The Smarty way */

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 13:59, tedd wrote: > At 1:30 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: > >On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 12:28, tedd wrote: > >> At 8:32 AM -0300 6/28/06, Martin Marques wrote: > >> >On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Ligaya Turmelle wrote: > >> > > >> >>Martin Marques wrote: > >> >>>Why not try to u

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 13:55, Jon Anderson wrote: > I really don't understand why people have such disregard for PHP as a > template system... I'm not saying one way is better or worse (it's > really a matter of preference), just that the PHP way isn't implicitly > bad or messy... > > /* The Sma

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread tedd
At 1:30 PM -0400 6/28/06, Robert Cummings wrote: >On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 12:28, tedd wrote: >> At 8:32 AM -0300 6/28/06, Martin Marques wrote: >> >On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Ligaya Turmelle wrote: >> > >> >>Martin Marques wrote: >> >>>Why not try to use one of the template systems that already exist? >>

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Jon Anderson
I really don't understand why people have such disregard for PHP as a template system... I'm not saying one way is better or worse (it's really a matter of preference), just that the PHP way isn't implicitly bad or messy... /* The Smarty way */ $smarty->assign('display_variable',$display_varia

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Martin Alterisio
2006/6/28, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 07:32, Martin Marques wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Ligaya Turmelle wrote: > > > Martin Marques wrote: > >> Why not try to use one of the template systems that already exist? > >> HTML_Template_IT, Smarty, etc. > >> > > Or jus

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 12:28, tedd wrote: > At 8:32 AM -0300 6/28/06, Martin Marques wrote: > >On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Ligaya Turmelle wrote: > > > >>Martin Marques wrote: > >>>Why not try to use one of the template systems that already exist? > >>>HTML_Template_IT, Smarty, etc. > >>> > >>Or just use

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread tedd
At 8:32 AM -0300 6/28/06, Martin Marques wrote: >On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Ligaya Turmelle wrote: > >>Martin Marques wrote: >>>Why not try to use one of the template systems that already exist? >>>HTML_Template_IT, Smarty, etc. >>> >>Or just use PHP... > >Because it's a mess. > That's because it g

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 07:32, Martin Marques wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Ligaya Turmelle wrote: > > > Martin Marques wrote: > >> Why not try to use one of the template systems that already exist? > >> HTML_Template_IT, Smarty, etc. > >> > > Or just use PHP... > > Because it's a mess. Agre

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-28 Thread Martin Marques
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Ligaya Turmelle wrote: Martin Marques wrote: Why not try to use one of the template systems that already exist? HTML_Template_IT, Smarty, etc. Or just use PHP... Because it's a mess. -- 21:50:04 up 2 days, 9:07, 0 users, load average: 0.92, 0.37, 0.18

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-27 Thread Ligaya Turmelle
Martin Marques wrote: Why not try to use one of the template systems that already exist? HTML_Template_IT, Smarty, etc. On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:22:42 +0300, sempsteen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi, i'm working on a template system. Basically i'm building raw contents in arrays and then put the

Re: [PHP] working on a template system...

2006-06-27 Thread Martin Marques
Why not try to use one of the template systems that already exist? HTML_Template_IT, Smarty, etc. On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:22:42 +0300, sempsteen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, i'm working on a template system. Basically i'm building raw > contents in arrays and then put them in templates by som