On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> On Mar 10, 2012, at 3:53 PM, tamouse mailing lists wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Tedd Sperling
>> wrote:
>>> That's correct, but to access those variables outside of their scope (such
>>> as a function) you do via a SuperGloba
Stuart Dallas wrote:
[snip] so $GLOBALS['GLOBALS']['GLOBALS']['GLOBALS']['_SERVER'] is a perfectly
valid, if daft, way of accessing $_SERVER.
-Stuart
Now this is becoming educational! ;-)
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On 13 Mar 2012 at 15:59, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> I'm not sure what would have saved bacon in the above case. I don't see how
> your example would work. I think it contained a typo.
>
> In what I think you were trying to demonstrate, I would just pass $x by
> reference (&$x) -- or -- return $x by
On Mar 13, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Stuart Dallas wrote:
> On 13 Mar 2012, at 15:59, Tedd Sperling wrote:
>
>> In any event, I seldom use globals anyway. This was more an academic
>> discussion.
> -snip-
> It ultimately also means that only the superglobals are true globals.
That was my initial statem
On 13 Mar 2012, at 15:59, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> In any event, I seldom use globals anyway. This was more an academic
> discussion.
If you're being academic about it please remember that the way PHP defines
globals is different to most other languages.
PHP: A variable defined at the top-level
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> On Mar 12, 2012, at 7:12 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
>> >
>> function yes ($a)
>> {
>> global $x;
>> if ($a) $x = "yes\n";
>> }
>>
>> first (true);
>>
>> echo $x;
>>
>> ?>
>>
>>
>> but I haven't looked into $GLOBALS enough to kn
On Mar 12, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 14:16, Tedd Sperling wrote:
>> This document clearly states that $GLOBALS is a SuperGlobal -- what am I not
>> understanding here?
>
>You are understanding it correctly, the only thing that's missing
> is the populat
On Mar 12, 2012, at 7:12 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
>
> function yes ($a)
> {
> global $x;
> if ($a) $x = "yes\n";
> }
>
> first (true);
>
> echo $x;
>
> ?>
>
>
> but I haven't looked into $GLOBALS enough to know whether using them instead
> would have saved my bacon.
I'm no
On 12 Mar 2012 at 20:07, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> Tim:
>
> I read somewhere that using:
>
> global $x;
>
> is not recommended. Whereas, it is recommended to use:
>
> $x = $GLOBALS['x'];
> echo $x;
Tedd,
That may well be, although as I write I can't recollect having seen that
anywhere; so I don'
The purpose of the "global" statement within a function is to let PHP know
that the usage of a var name INSIDE that function is not meant to create a
NEW variable, but instead, to reference the other (global) variable being
used (and perhaps already defined) in your main script.
Basically it wo
On Mar 11, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
>
> In the following, $x is a global but not a super-global (AFAIK).
>
>
>
> function echox ()
> {
>
> global $x;
>
> echo $x;
>
> }
>
> $x = "Hello world\n";
>
> echox ();
>
> ?>
>
> --
> Cheers -- Tim
Tim:
I read so
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 14:16, Tedd Sperling wrote:
>
> As to placing an additional requirement (i.e., being predefined) on the
> definition as to what constitutes a SuperGlobal is outside my understanding.
> As such, I must defer to the PHP Manual, namely:
>
> http://php.net/manual/en/language.
On 11 Mar 2012 at 18:16, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> On Mar 11, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:37, Tedd Sperling wrote:
>>> As such, there are no "globals" in PHP other than SuperGlobals. As I said,
>>> if I'm wrong, please show me otherwise.
>>
>>A superg
On Mar 11, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:37, Tedd Sperling wrote:
>> As such, there are no "globals" in PHP other than SuperGlobals. As I said,
>> if I'm wrong, please show me otherwise.
>
>A superglobal is predefined at run-time by the parser,
> enviro
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:37, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> As such, there are no "globals" in PHP other than SuperGlobals. As I said, if
> I'm wrong, please show me otherwise.
A superglobal is predefined at run-time by the parser,
environment, SAPI, etc. (_SERVER, _POST, _GET, _REQUEST, _ENV,
_SE
On 11 Mar 2012, at 01:43, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> On Mar 10, 2012, at 3:53 PM, tamouse mailing lists wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Tedd Sperling
>> wrote:
>>> That's correct, but to access those variables outside of their scope (such
>>> as a function) you do via a SuperGlobal, name
On Mar 10, 2012, at 3:53 PM, tamouse mailing lists wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Tedd Sperling
> wrote:
>> That's correct, but to access those variables outside of their scope (such
>> as a function) you do via a SuperGlobal, namely $GLOBAL['whatever'].
>>
>> As such, there are no "
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Jim Giner wrote:
>> "tamouse mailing lists" wrote in message
>> news:CAHUC_t8g43GE3xqvSU5SwFePGS1XG=tk1mhrbem9gjaarve...@mail.gmail.com...
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Tedd Sperling
>>> wrote:
On Fe
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On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Jim Giner wrote:
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>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Tedd
On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Jim Giner wrote:
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>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Tedd Sperling
>> wrote:
>>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:10 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote:
On 13 Feb
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> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Tedd Sperling
> wrote:
>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:10 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote:
>>> On 13 Feb 2012, at 06:28, Rui Hu wrote:
How PHP sets varia
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:10 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote:
>> On 13 Feb 2012, at 06:28, Rui Hu wrote:
>>> How PHP sets variables in $_SERVER, say, $DOCUMENT_ROOT? What should I know
>>> if I want to modify $_SERVER myself?
>>
>> Once your script start
On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:10 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote:
> On 13 Feb 2012, at 06:28, Rui Hu wrote:
>
>> How PHP sets variables in $_SERVER, say, $DOCUMENT_ROOT? What should I know
>> if I want to modify $_SERVER myself?
>
> Once your script starts the superglobals are no different to any other
> varia
On 13 Feb 2012, at 06:28, Rui Hu wrote:
> How PHP sets variables in $_SERVER, say, $DOCUMENT_ROOT? What should I know
> if I want to modify $_SERVER myself?
Once your script starts the superglobals are no different to any other
variables, except that they're in scope at all times.
The only thi
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Rui Hu wrote:
> hi,
>
> How PHP sets variables in $_SERVER, say, $DOCUMENT_ROOT? What should I know
> if I want to modify $_SERVER myself?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Rui Hu
>
Peter and Paul:
Sorry, I went on vacation for a few days (it was a surprise vacation
with a 2 day notice).
I think you both understand what I was looking for and found what I
wanted was not possible. It's just one of those things in life you
have to live with.
Thanks very much for your tim
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 05:13:59PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:34:42PM +0200, Peter Lind wrote:
>
> > On 30 August 2010 22:34, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 09:53:46PM +0200, Peter Lind wrote:
> > >
>
>
>
> > >> > $_SERVER['REMOTE_NAME']
> > >
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:34:42PM +0200, Peter Lind wrote:
> On 30 August 2010 22:34, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 09:53:46PM +0200, Peter Lind wrote:
> >
> >> > $_SERVER['REMOTE_NAME']
> >> >
> >> > So the question is, how would he get that last variable. It becomes
> >>
On 30 August 2010 22:34, Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 09:53:46PM +0200, Peter Lind wrote:
>
>> On 30 August 2010 21:32, Paul M Foster wrote:
>> > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 06:04:23PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
>> >
>> >> Jason Pruim wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > My understanding of how share
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 09:53:46PM +0200, Peter Lind wrote:
> On 30 August 2010 21:32, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 06:04:23PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> >
> >> Jason Pruim wrote:
> >>
> >> > My understanding of how shared hosting works would make this near
> >> > impossible..
On 30 August 2010 21:32, Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 06:04:23PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
>
>> Jason Pruim wrote:
>>
>> > My understanding of how shared hosting works would make this near
>> > impossible... Basically Apache grabs a header that is sent at the
>> > initial connecti
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 06:04:23PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> Jason Pruim wrote:
>
> > My understanding of how shared hosting works would make this near
> > impossible... Basically Apache grabs a header that is sent at the
> > initial connection which includes the destination hostname and from
>
On 29 August 2010 18:04, Per Jessen wrote:
> Jason Pruim wrote:
>
>> My understanding of how shared hosting works would make this near
>> impossible... Basically Apache grabs a header that is sent at the
>> initial connection which includes the destination hostname and from
>> there it translates
Jason Pruim wrote:
> My understanding of how shared hosting works would make this near
> impossible... Basically Apache grabs a header that is sent at the
> initial connection which includes the destination hostname and from
> there it translates it to the proper directory on the shared host.
>
>
At 11:54 AM -0400 8/29/10, Jason Pruim wrote:
On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:55 AM, tedd wrote:
To all:
My post about SERVER globals was simply an observation that the
SERVER global report of host and remote was not symmetric -- for
example you could obtain both the IP and Domain Name of the host,
On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:55 AM, tedd wrote:
At 10:56 AM +0200 8/29/10, Peter Lind wrote:
On 29 August 2010 08:08, Jim Lucas wrote:
*snip*
Their is not existing variable (if you would) that your server, when
connecting to a remote server, would be sending. So, to have the
remote end
be abl
At 10:56 AM +0200 8/29/10, Peter Lind wrote:
On 29 August 2010 08:08, Jim Lucas wrote:
*snip*
Their is not existing variable (if you would) that your server, when
connecting to a remote server, would be sending. So, to have the remote end
be able to identify the initiating host identity,
On 29 August 2010 08:08, Jim Lucas wrote:
*snip*
> Their is not existing variable (if you would) that your server, when
> connecting to a remote server, would be sending. So, to have the remote end
> be able to identify the initiating host identity, the initiating side would
> have to add some
tedd wrote:
At 12:15 AM +0200 8/29/10, Peter Lind wrote:
On 28 August 2010 23:45, tedd wrote:
> So, I'm trying to figure out a compliment to
$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] such as
something like $_SERVER['REMOTE_NAME'].
> Is there such a beast?
You're not making any sense. For the script on y
Sorry, forgot to include the mailing list email when I replied to this
originally...
On Aug 28, 2010, at 8:28 PM, tedd wrote:
Sorry for not making sense. But sometimes you have to confirm the
players (both server and remote) in communications.
Try this -- place this script on your site:
At 12:15 AM +0200 8/29/10, Peter Lind wrote:
On 28 August 2010 23:45, tedd wrote:
> So, I'm trying to figure out a compliment to
$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] such as
something like $_SERVER['REMOTE_NAME'].
> Is there such a beast?
You're not making any sense. For the script on your local hos
On 28 August 2010 23:45, tedd wrote:
> At 9:41 PM +0200 8/28/10, Per Jessen wrote:
>>
>> tedd wrote:
>> >
>>>
>>> So, how can I identify the exact location of the 'server_addr' and of
>>> the 'remote_addr' on shared hosting? Is that possible?
>>
>> $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] will tell you the name
At 9:41 PM +0200 8/28/10, Per Jessen wrote:
tedd wrote:
>
So, how can I identify the exact location of the 'server_addr' and of
the 'remote_addr' on shared hosting? Is that possible?
$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] will tell you the name of the virtual host - I
don't know if that is what you're aft
tedd wrote:
> Hi gang:
>
> The server global:
>
> $_SERVER['SERVER_ADDR']
>
> Provides the IP of the server where the current script is executing.
>
> And, the server global:
>
> $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']
>
> Provides the IP of the server executing the script.
Yes, aka the client addr
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