Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2002-01-25 Thread Emile Bosch
Don't feed the troll.. "Php" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > On a conceptual level, I for one am a great fan of the kludge. > > Every piece of software is a trade off between performance and speed of > development. > > You can have the fastest a

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Maxim Maletsky \(PHPBeginner.com\)
"conditionally load the function/files that you want then you should use include(). " Was the implication of the poster I replied to. To the original I replied commenting each of his arguments, therefore I knew his points. Maxim Maletsky www.PHPBeginner.com -- PHP General Mailing List (ht

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread php
: 'Opec Kemp'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss! > > PHP on the other hand seems to load in ALL the code that > MAY be run. > > i.e. an include brings things in which are inside an if, > even if the > > if equates to false. &

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Maxim Maletsky \(PHPBeginner.com\)
> To: 'Opec Kemp'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss! > > > > > PHP on the other hand seems to load in ALL the code that > > MAY be run. > > > i.e. an include brings things in which are inside an if, > > even

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Maxim Maletsky \(PHPBeginner.com\)
> > PHP on the other hand seems to load in ALL the code that > MAY be run. > > i.e. an include brings things in which are inside an if, > even if the > > if equates to false. > > A quick check in the manual, it states that: > > "Unlike include(), require() will always read in the target >

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Maxim Maletsky \(PHPBeginner.com\)
> (From behind filing cabinet where I am ducking preparing for flames). > > Is it just me or is there anyone else that thinks PHP suffers > from not being modular. It is just you and some other people similar to you. Thought this question was up for a while :-) > PHP on the other hand seem

Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
> Exelent, as I said I was playing devels advicate, I like PHP a lot, I am > trying to get someone else to use it to and they came up with this stuff. > > > if(condition) include 'file'; > > Is exactly what I was looking for. As 'if () {}' loaded, or at least > parsed things I did'nt think anothe

Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Ben . Edwards
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss! > PHP on the other hand seems to load in ALL the code that MAY be run. i.e. > an include brings things in which are inside an if, even if the if equates > to false. That&

Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
> PHP on the other hand seems to load in ALL the code that MAY be run. i.e. > an include brings things in which are inside an if, even if the if equates > to false. That's not true. if(condition) include 'file'; That will only include the file if the condition is true. Very easy to verify f

Re: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread Steve Edberg
At 4:48 PM +0200 10/4/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >(From behind filing cabinet where I am ducking preparing for flames). > >Is it just me or is there anyone else that thinks PHP suffers from not >being modular. Let me explain myself. If you write a module for a lot of >procedural languages it s

RE: [PHP] PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!

2001-10-04 Thread php
On a conceptual level, I for one am a great fan of the kludge. Every piece of software is a trade off between performance and speed of development. You can have the fastest app in the world for $1,000,000 in development time OR you can write up a in-elegant solution in 5minutes ($50) and if its