On Thu, February 7, 2008 8:35 pm, Andrés Robinet wrote:
> 1 - I believe the fact that we don't "encode" (read "compile") our
> scripts is
> tightly related to the fact that we don't have a bytecode interpreter
> (say JIT
> compiler or something?) bundled into PHP.
Er.
PHP has a bytecode inter
On 2/7/08, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Because who's to say you're selling to one client? If it's your
> Intellectual Property, wouldn't you want to protect it, at least as
> much as possible?
No, I think protecting software in any way is a waste if resources,
especially softwar
> accept the fact that it may get pirated.
It may do. But there's nothing wrong with making it as hard as possible
to do so. Most people have better things to do than try to reverse
engineer a piece of code.
Consider:
1. People who buy code will generally do so to solve a problem that they
Casey wrote:
>
> Why not just translate it to C#?
Personally I'd just go for C - that way I can just distribute a binary
and be done with it. No runtime, no JVM, no mono etc.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
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Greg Donald wrote:
> Deductive reasoning leads to two possible options:
>
> 1) Don't give the code to anyone.
> 2) Give the code to the client and accept the fact that it may get
> pirated.
Yep, that's all there is to it.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:10 PM
> To: Greg Donald
> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection
>
> On Feb 7, 2008 6:20 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PR
On Feb 7, 2008 6:20 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/7/08, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually, Greg, I respectfully disagree. First, just because
> > there may be ways to reverse-engineer things doesn't mean it's a bad
> > idea to attempt to protect your code
On 2/7/08, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, Greg, I respectfully disagree. First, just because
> there may be ways to reverse-engineer things doesn't mean it's a bad
> idea to attempt to protect your code against such.
Why would you encode to start with? The only reason I
On Feb 7, 2008 4:56 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/7/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > http://www.phprecovery.com/
> >
> > Pointless? I think it is exactly the answer to the original persons
> > question.
>
> Yup, it's the exact correct answer, to a pointless que
On 2/7/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.phprecovery.com/
>
> Pointless? I think it is exactly the answer to the original persons
> question.
Yup, it's the exact correct answer, to a pointless question.
Even Zend knows it's pointless to encode PHP. When you type "decode
On Feb 7, 2008 1:50 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greg Donald wrote:
> > On 2/6/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> There's the Zend Encoder at www.zend.com. Though it may be called
> >> something else now.
> >
> > Pointless.
> >
> > http://www.phprecovery.com/
>
> Po
Greg Donald wrote:
On 2/6/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There's the Zend Encoder at www.zend.com. Though it may be called
something else now.
Pointless.
http://www.phprecovery.com/
Pointless? I think it is exactly the answer to the original persons
question.
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Richard Lynch wrote:
> After you get your PHP code all worked out, re-write it as a custom
> PHP extension -- or even just the core of it, and send them a .so or
> .dll to install.
Interesting option. Does require more effort, but if you rewrite the
whole thing in C, you might gain some performa
John Taylor-Johnston wrote:
> I'm not sure where PHP stands on this politically. But I believe in
> Open Source, which allows you to encode your code. But why? At heart
> I'm a purist GNU. Stallman was right when he first tried to fix a
> faulty printer.
I too believe in Open Source, but there ar
a nest of hornets. :p
C.R.Vegelin wrote:
See also:
http://www.ioncube.com/
- Original Message - From: "Bastien Koert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Zoran Bogdanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP So
On Wed, February 6, 2008 5:28 am, Zoran Bogdanov wrote:
> I'm building a C# application that connects to a server that has PHP
> scripts
> on it.
>
> We need to deliver the complete solution to a firm, the C# is no
> problem
> because it is compiled...
>
> But PHP is a problem bacause it is interpr
On 2/6/08, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/6/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There's the Zend Encoder at www.zend.com. Though it may be called
> > something else now.
>
> Pointless.
>
> http://www.phprecovery.com/
http://www.zendecode.com/
I'm sure there are others.
On 2/6/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's the Zend Encoder at www.zend.com. Though it may be called
> something else now.
Pointless.
http://www.phprecovery.com/
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On Feb 6, 2008 11:13 AM, C.R.Vegelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bastien Koert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > zend encoder?
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-screw/
> >
> >
> > google for more
>
>
> See also:
> http://www.ioncube.com/
All good ideas. An
> Is htere a way to secoure my code so when they put it on the server, they
> can't see it!
Short answer: NO
Long answer NO, but:
There are some products that claim they protect your code, but they
all basicly rely on "security through obscurity". A principle that is
often frowned upon by security
See also:
http://www.ioncube.com/
- Original Message -
From: "Bastien Koert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Zoran Bogdanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP Source code protection
zend encoder?
htt
zend encoder?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-screw/
google for more
bastien> To: php-general@lists.php.net> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 6
Feb 2008 12:28:12 +0100> Subject: [PHP] PHP Source code protection> > Hi,> >
I'm building a C# application that connects to a server t
I'm building a C# application that connects to a server that has PHP scripts
on it.
We need to deliver the complete solution to a firm, the C# is no problem
because it is compiled...
But PHP is a problem bacause it is interpreted and we will have to deliver
pure, unprotected script...
Is h
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