On 13/06/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, June 13, 2007 3:36 am, Robin Vickery wrote:
> On 12/06/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, June 12, 2007 9:33 am, Tijnema wrote:
>> > I meant reverse order :P
>>
>> That would be pretty broken.
>>
>> There's no guar
On Wed, June 13, 2007 3:36 am, Robin Vickery wrote:
> On 12/06/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, June 12, 2007 9:33 am, Tijnema wrote:
>> > I meant reverse order :P
>>
>> That would be pretty broken.
>>
>> There's no guarantee that browsers will present the inputs in any
>> or
On Tue, June 12, 2007 10:12 pm, Jake McHenry wrote:
> Has anyone tried cracking/hacking what Microsoft has done with the
> animal
> pictures?
MS is using petfinder.com or whatever it is, as their source to know
what is a "cat" and a "dog"
So all you have to do is trick petfinder.com into giving y
On 6/13/07, Jake McHenry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've been reading along, very informative :) I found Osama within 20 seconds
and as someone posted already, looking for his head wouldn't be much of a
task for a computer.
It's just for if you want to keep "normal" people out ;)
Has anyone t
On 12/06/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, June 12, 2007 9:33 am, Tijnema wrote:
> I meant reverse order :P
That would be pretty broken.
There's no guarantee that browsers will present the inputs in any
order at all, even though they all seem (so far) to follow the
convention
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 23:12 -0400, Jake McHenry wrote:
> I've been reading along, very informative :) I found Osama within 20 seconds
> and as someone posted already, looking for his head wouldn't be much of a
> task for a computer.
>
> Has anyone tried cracking/hacking what Microsoft has done wit
im Lucas; php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Going from simple to super CAPTCHA
>
> At 12:29 PM -0400 6/12/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 18:19 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> >> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
At 12:29 PM -0400 6/12/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 18:19 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 12:01 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:56 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > >
> > >
>
At 4:33 PM -0500 6/12/07, Richard Lynch wrote:
!!!The remainder is NOT directed to any one specific person!!!
Perhaps we should consider a moratorium on posts about CAPTCHA, or
some kind of limitation here...
It's getting old fast...
Perhaps only allow actual implementations and actual cracks
> >http://shorl.com/nomojeryprafri
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.
Hmm, LOL
Ok, found him ;) He's under the ground ... :P
Heheh, nah, not this time... he's in one of the bumper cars :)
Cheers,
Rob.
That would have kept me out. I must have spent ten minutes looking at
that thing and I did no
At 6:19 PM +0200 6/12/07, Tijnema wrote:
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 12:01 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:56 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
>
> (1 * 100) / 100 = .10 = 10% of the time
Bad math alert... (
On Tue, June 12, 2007 7:18 am, tedd wrote:
> At 4:37 PM -0400 6/11/07, Daniel Brown wrote:
>> I'm going to try to knock out a
>>proof-of-concept later this week if I can to bring some of it
>>together.
>>
>>--
>>Daniel P. Brown
>
>
> Daniel et al:
>
> While thinking about proof-of-concepts, think
On Tue, June 12, 2007 2:06 pm, Daniel Brown wrote:
> Okay, here's something I whipped up today:
>
> http://pilotpig.com/captcha/index.php
>
> Works pretty well, but keep in mind that it's in the very early
> stages. I randomized the position and size to assist in throwing off
> Turing
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:05 -0500, Richard Lynch wrote:
> On Tue, June 12, 2007 7:01 am, tedd wrote:
> > I was thinking about this the other day -- computers are fast and
> > people are generally slow. So, instead of making the time short,
> > examine how fast the answer was obtained. Immediate = c
On Tue, June 12, 2007 10:49 am, tedd wrote:
> Now, how is a bot going to figure that out?
The bot doesn't figure any damn thing out.
A human figures it out, and programs the bot to do it.
If you're just fighting a bot, any captcha will work.
If you're fighting an actual human, any captcha can be
On Tue, June 12, 2007 7:01 am, tedd wrote:
> I was thinking about this the other day -- computers are fast and
> people are generally slow. So, instead of making the time short,
> examine how fast the answer was obtained. Immediate = computer;
> delayed = human.
>
> Even an easy LETTER CAPTCHA take
On 6/12/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, June 12, 2007 3:40 pm, Tijnema wrote:
> A PFP (Pixel-For-Pixel) Approach would do the job, but I don't think
> there exists software yet for it. I would have to get the file format
> of the bitmap you're using (PNG I Guess), and then pa
On Tue, June 12, 2007 3:40 pm, Tijnema wrote:
> A PFP (Pixel-For-Pixel) Approach would do the job, but I don't think
> there exists software yet for it. I would have to get the file format
> of the bitmap you're using (PNG I Guess), and then parse it PFP.
Oh, the software exists.
http://php.net/im
On 6/12/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, June 12, 2007 9:33 am, Tijnema wrote:
> I meant reverse order :P
That would be pretty broken.
First, you should;ve seen this as a joke that replies to the previous messages.
There's no guarantee that browsers will present the input
On Tue, June 12, 2007 9:33 am, Tijnema wrote:
> I meant reverse order :P
That would be pretty broken.
There's no guarantee that browsers will present the inputs in any
order at all, even though they all seem (so far) to follow the
convention of presenting them in the order they appear in the form
On Tue, June 12, 2007 6:41 am, tedd wrote:
> If my dot-captcha holds up against Tijnema, we could think of various
> ways to combine both.
E.
Now that I've looked at the source, how do you stop:
http://sperling.com', '/examples/dot-captcha/index.php',
'Submit.x=200&Submit.y=50');
?>
Spammer
On 6/12/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, June 12, 2007 6:42 am, Stut wrote:
> tedd wrote:
>> At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
>>> i'll see if I can crack it ;)
>>>
>>> Tijnema
>>>
>>> *
On Tue, June 12, 2007 6:42 am, Stut wrote:
> tedd wrote:
>> At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
>>> i'll see if I can crack it ;)
>>>
>>> Tijnema
>>>
>>> * I hope you don't mean the same uncrackable as AACS did:
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 21:46 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:06 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, here's something I whipped up today:
> > >
> > > h
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 21:46 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:06 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, here's something I whipped up today:
> > >
> > > http://pilotpig.com/captcha/index.php
> > >
> > > Work
On Tue, June 12, 2007 6:25 am, tedd wrote:
> At 6:22 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
>>Server builds up a database of pictures, client does the same with
>> MD5
>>check, and problem solved...:)
>>
>>Tijnema
>
> Tijnema:
>
> Not exactly, I don't think you could MD5 this:
>
> http://sperling.com/exa
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:06 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
>
> Okay, here's something I whipped up today:
>
> http://pilotpig.com/captcha/index.php
>
> Works pretty well, but keep in mind that it's in the very early
> stages. I rando
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:06 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
>
> Okay, here's something I whipped up today:
>
> http://pilotpig.com/captcha/index.php
>
> Works pretty well, but keep in mind that it's in the very early
> stages. I randomized the position and size to assist in throwing off
>
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:34 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2007
> -Original Message-
> From: Tijnema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:34 PM
> To: Robert Cummings
> Cc: tedd; Stut; Jim Lucas; php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Going from simple to super CAPTCHA
>
>
> On 6/12/07, Robert
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:34 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 18:19 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > > > On 6/12/0
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 18:19 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2007
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 18:19 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 12:01 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > > > > O
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 18:19 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 12:01 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:56 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > > >
>
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 18:19 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 12:01 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:56 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (1 * 100) / 100 = .10 = 10% of
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 12:01 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:56 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >
> >
> > (1 * 100) / 100 = .10 = 10% of the time
>
> Bad math alert... (1 * 100) / 100 = 10;)
>
>
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 12:01 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:56 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >
> >
> > (1 * 100) / 100 = .10 = 10% of the time
>
> Bad math alert... (1 * 100) / 100 = 10;)
>
> Still the same answer though, was just mixing what I
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:56 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:49 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > At 2:12 PM +0100 6/12/07, Stut wrote:
> > >The submit image is bigger than the circle, and I'm guessing Tedd is
> > >checking the coords passed through.
> > >
> > >-Stut
> >
> > Yes, tha
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:49 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 2:12 PM +0100 6/12/07, Stut wrote:
> >The submit image is bigger than the circle, and I'm guessing Tedd is
> >checking the coords passed through.
> >
> >-Stut
>
> Yes, that's all the technique does for now. It just checks the submit
> x and sub
At 2:12 PM +0100 6/12/07, Stut wrote:
The submit image is bigger than the circle, and I'm guessing Tedd is
checking the coords passed through.
-Stut
Yes, that's all the technique does for now. It just checks the submit
x and submit y and determines if those coordinates lie within the
circle
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:53 -0300, zerof wrote:
> This is another intersting example of CAPTCHA, from - Carnegie Mellon
> University:
>
> http://recaptcha.net/
That's a pretty cool idea... doesn't necessarily improve CAPTCHA per se,
but it does give it some usefulness beyond preventing spam.
Ch
This is another intersting example of CAPTCHA, from - Carnegie Mellon
University:
http://recaptcha.net/
--
zerof
http://www.educar.pro.br/
Apache - PHP - MySQL - Boolean Logics - Project Management
--
Você deve, sempre, consultar uma segu
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:35 +0100, Robin Vickery wrote:
> On 10/06/07, Dave M G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > PHP General List,
> >
> > With a little help from the web, and help from this list, I have a
> > simple CAPTCHA image that works within the content system I'm building.
> >
> > But it's *r
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:33 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:46 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
On 10/06/07, Dave M G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
PHP General List,
With a little help from the web, and help from this list, I have a
simple CAPTCHA image that works within the content system I'm building.
But it's *really* simple. Basically white text on a black background,
with a couple of wh
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:46 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > >
> > > Nope, it does actually check for Submit.x and Submit.y ;)
> >
> > DOH
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:46 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > >
> > > Nope, it does actually check for Submit.x and Submit.y ;)
> >
> > DOH! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
>
> You seem pretty sure a
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:46 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > On 6/12/07, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > tedd wrote:
> > > > > A
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:46 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > On 6/12/07, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > tedd wrote:
> > > > > At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > >
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > tedd wrote:
> > > At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
> > >> i'll see if I can crack it ;)
> > >>
> > >>
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:09 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 07:29 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > > At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Well, if you
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > tedd wrote:
> > > At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create
On 6/12/07, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
tedd wrote:
> At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
>> i'll see if I can crack it ;)
>>
>> Tijnema
>>
>> * I hope you don't mean the same uncrackable as AACS did:
>> "HD-DV
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:09 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 07:29 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > > At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
>
Robert Cummings wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 07:29 -0400, tedd wrote:
At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
i'll see if I can crack it ;)
Tijnema
* I hope you don't mean the same uncrackable as AACS did:
"HD-DVD is uncrack
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 08:01 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 3:02 PM -0400 6/11/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >OCR is extremely fast. I've done work in the past using OCR and while it
> >was simple text in documents, the OCR program could extract the text
> >from the image of a magazine page in about a secon
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 09:05 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 07:29 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
> > >i'll see if I can crack it ;)
> > >
> > >Tijnema
> > >
>
On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 07:29 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
> >>
> >
> >Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
> >i'll see if I can crack it ;)
> >
> >Tijnema
> >
> >* I hope you don'
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 07:29 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
> >>
> >
> >Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
> >i'll see if I can crack it ;)
> >
> >Tijnema
> >
> >* I hope you don't mean the same uncrackable as AACS did:
> >"HD-DVD is un
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 07:25 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 6:22 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
> >Server builds up a database of pictures, client does the same with MD5
> >check, and problem solved...:)
> >
> >Tijnema
>
> Tijnema:
>
> Not exactly, I don't think you could MD5 this:
>
> http://sperling
On 6/12/07, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 12:42 PM +0100 6/12/07, Stut wrote:
>tedd wrote:
>>At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
>>>
>>>Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
>>>i'll see if I can crack it ;)
>>>
>>>Tijnema
>>>
>>>* I hope you don't mean
At 12:42 PM +0100 6/12/07, Stut wrote:
tedd wrote:
At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
i'll see if I can crack it ;)
Tijnema
* I hope you don't mean the same uncrackable as AACS did:
"HD-DVD is uncrackable" ;)
As I
At 4:37 PM -0400 6/11/07, Daniel Brown wrote:
I'm going to try to knock out a
proof-of-concept later this week if I can to bring some of it
together.
--
Daniel P. Brown
Daniel et al:
While thinking about proof-of-concepts, think also of optical
illusions -- perhaps there's some opportunity
At 3:02 PM -0400 6/11/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
OCR is extremely fast. I've done work in the past using OCR and while it
was simple text in documents, the OCR program could extract the text
from the image of a magazine page in about a second. For simplistic
displays of text, or even only slight
tedd wrote:
At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
i'll see if I can crack it ;)
Tijnema
* I hope you don't mean the same uncrackable as AACS did:
"HD-DVD is uncrackable" ;)
As I provided in another post, try cracking
At 7:51 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
It would definitly be an interesting challenge, but you don't have
time, or is that an excuse..? :P
What about you tedd?
Tijnema
Eager Beaver, huh?
Good for you!
After you crack my dot-captcha, I'll make up another. :-)
Rob provided an interesting d
At 7:38 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
i'll see if I can crack it ;)
Tijnema
* I hope you don't mean the same uncrackable as AACS did:
"HD-DVD is uncrackable" ;)
As I provided in another post, try cracking this:
http:/
At 6:22 PM +0200 6/11/07, Tijnema wrote:
Server builds up a database of pictures, client does the same with MD5
check, and problem solved...:)
Tijnema
Tijnema:
Not exactly, I don't think you could MD5 this:
http://sperling.com/examples/dot-captcha/
To make variations of the theme. I can pla
On Mon, June 11, 2007 12:59 pm, Daniel Brown wrote:
>> > http://pilotpig.net/captcha-example.php
I would be hard-pressed to answer correctly, I think.
Which doesn't matter.
Any multiple-choice CAPTCHA is pointless.
Spammers would consider at 33% success ratio WONDERFUL.
Their entire bu
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 16:37 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > * At peak performance, and of course there's OS running etc.
> >
>
> Yes, but I don't think you understand that it was just an idea in
> the infantile stages. I'm going to try to kn
On 6/11/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/11/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 14:29 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > > > > >To be a bit ea
On 6/11/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/11/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 14:29 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > > > >To be a bit easier, I whipped up a quick example on the web. It's
>
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 14:57 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 14:29 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > > > > >To be a bit easier, I whipped up a quick example on the web.
On 6/11/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 14:29 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > > >To be a bit easier, I whipped up a quick example on the web. It's
> > > > just static images, not a working system, but you'll
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 20:47 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 14:29 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > > > >To be a bit easier, I whipped up a quick example on the web. It's
> > > > > just static images, not a working system, b
On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 14:29 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > >To be a bit easier, I whipped up a quick example on the web. It's
> > > just static images, not a working system, but you'll see what we're
> > > getting at here:
> > >h
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 14:29 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > >To be a bit easier, I whipped up a quick example on the web. It's
> > > just static images, not a working system, but you'll see what we're
> > > getting at here:
> > >http://pilotpig.net/captcha-example.php
> > >
> >
> > You
>To be a bit easier, I whipped up a quick example on the web. It's
> just static images, not a working system, but you'll see what we're
> getting at here:
>http://pilotpig.net/captcha-example.php
>
You could even use a color check here to see which color matches the best ;)
Tijnema
On 6/11/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake the following lore:
> Convert image to fixed width + fixed height + default depth, then do
> some work on it :P
>
> Tijnema
>
Yeah, what work? Best of luck with getting a system to reliably
translate one
The (things I thought were subtle) jokes aside, hopefully the
examples can be used as some kind of point-of-reference for those who
may follow along in the future. When they Google for a solution like
the one we're discussing and the words of this motley crew come up as
one of the first result
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 13:59 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 13:52 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > > > Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake the following lore:
> > > > Convert image to fixed width + fixed height + default dept
On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 13:52 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake the following lore:
> > Convert image to fixed width + fixed height + default depth, then do
> > some work on it :P
>
> To be a bit easier, I whi
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 13:52 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake the following lore:
> > Convert image to fixed width + fixed height + default depth, then do
> > some work on it :P
>
> To be a bit easier, I whipped up a quick example on the web. It's
> just static i
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 19:51 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 19:38 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it a
Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake the following lore:
Convert image to fixed width + fixed height + default depth, then do
some work on it :P
Tijnema
Yeah, what work? Best of luck with getting a system to reliably
translate one Jell-o blob of an image into another accurately and
reliably.
On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 19:38 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
> i'll see if I can crack it ;)
>
> Tijnema
>
> * I hope you do
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 19:38 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, if you think this is the uncrackable* solution, create it and
> i'll see if I can crack it ;)
>
> Tijnema
>
> * I hope you don't mean the same uncrackable as AACS did:
> "HD-DVD i
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 13:29 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 18:57 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > On 6/11/07, Jim Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Tijnema wrote:
> > > > On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > not if you are morphing/changing the
On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 18:57 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Jim Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tijnema wrote:
> > > On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > not if you are morphing/changing the image each page
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 18:57 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Jim Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tijnema wrote:
> > > On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > not if you are morphing/changing the image each page load.
> >
>
> >
> > remember, change height, width, col
Nah, that's what we have you for! ;-P
Just for that, I'm top-posting, too.
Gotta' love Mondays
On 6/11/07, Crayon Shin Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 00:22, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 00:22, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 10:38 -0400, tedd wrote:
[snip]
Tijnema, Daniel Brown, and any other guilty ones, please trim your posts!
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On 6/11/07, Jim Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 10:38 -0400, tedd wrote:
>> > Gnag:
>> >
>> > I know we can beat this thing to death, as we have in previous
>> > threads and I don't anyone wants to t
Tijnema wrote:
On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 10:38 -0400, tedd wrote:
> Gnag:
>
> I know we can beat this thing to death, as we have in previous
> threads and I don't anyone wants to travel previously traveled ground.
>
> However, Rob said:
>
> "A g
On 6/11/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 10:38 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > Gnag:
> >
> > I know we can beat this thing to death, as we have in previous
> > threads and I don't anyone wants to travel previously travele
On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 10:38 -0400, tedd wrote:
> Gnag:
>
> I know we can beat this thing to death, as we have in previous
> threads and I don't anyone wants to travel previously traveled ground.
>
> However, Rob said:
>
> "A good captcha will
On 6/11/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 12:01 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 10:38 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > > Gnag:
> > >
> > > I know we can beat this thing to death, as we have in p
On 6/11/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 12:01 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 10:38 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > Gnag:
> >
> > I know we can beat this thing to death, as we have in previous
> > threads and I don't anyone wants to travel previou
On Jun 11, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
What did you hear ringing?
Possible answers... a bell, the telephone, an alarm, etc.
The problem then becomes an issue of people who can't spell or are
terrible at recognizing everyday things.
To combat that, wouldn't you be able t
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 12:01 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 10:38 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > Gnag:
> >
> > I know we can beat this thing to death, as we have in previous
> > threads and I don't anyone wants to travel previously traveled ground.
> >
> > However, Rob said:
> >
>
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